Pioneer chainsaws

[kz1000]

I mean the threads in the saw, I don't have any studs.

 

[Perry pioneer]

Gotcha?....and you get rain? Not here in yucrapa,CA.

 

[kz1000]

Here we go with the pictures, as for the rain, not very often and never at this time of the year.

 

[Perry pioneer]

Wow that is beautiful! Damn I like that so cool, big old pioneers are awesome. Good job KZ really good!!!

 

[kz1000]

Thanks for the compliment, it really is a nice old saw. What year would this have been?

 

[Perry pioneer]

I'm not sure I think that it was 64 to 76, I shire like it thow, 130 shipped? Lol just kidding. Wait till you put it to wood you gonna like! Its got a. 404 clutch yes.

 

[kz1000]

The clutch is a rim style that you can put anything on, I just set that bar on it for the pic, it's a 28" .058 gauge. I still would let the saw go for $200 shipped for the power head and discuss the bar. I see that Chainsawr has one of the studs, haven't heard from Wagonwerks.

 

[kz1000]

The bear of it is that now I don't want to get it dirty.

 

[Perry pioneer]

The bear is every time you walk by it, it says look at me and you do and you say to your self look at that thing that's bad ass!...its growing on you...haha... Yeah!!!

 

[huck01955]

 

[kz1000]

Sounded pretty good, nice wood pile.

 

[fossil]

You don't see that every day.
Thanks for posting.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Hey Joe, is that one of Jeff`s?

 

[P62]

Hey Joe, is that one of Jeff`s?

Jerry
I thought the woodpile would look familiar too you.
Joe was here yesterday picking up a couple of 2 man Hornets and I fired up one of the Pioneer P35 saws for him.
That one is the non chainbreak model P35. The other P35S models I have seem to be the ones you see when they turn up. I ran a couple of tanks through 2 of the P35's this spring. The ran nice but heavy for the power by todays standards. A fair test would be to compare them to a similar Stihl, Jonsered or Husqvarna from the mid 70's.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Jerry
I thought the woodpile would look familiar too you.
Joe was here yesterday picking up a couple of 2 man Hornets and I fired up one of the Pioneer P35 saws for him.
That one is the non chainbreak model P35. The other P35S models I have seem to be the ones you see when they turn up. I ran a couple of tanks through 2 of the P35's this spring. The ran nice but heavy for the power by todays standards. A fair test would be to compare them to a similar Stihl, Jonsered or Husqvarna from the mid 70's.

I had seen your other ones and that one looked different, that was the reason I asked. Thought you may have been fixing to buy another one and had Joe film it. Got to say I never seen you in one of his vids before. I do recognize the woodpile and property, only been there once but never forget. I would like to see that test or even be part of it, can`t remember running anything but Pioneers up til 79, then it was a full metal Poulan 306A.

 

[P62]

It would be an interesting test for sure. One major problem is putting an actual date on the P35. I think the P35 was likely ahead of its time when the design started but with the problems at Pioneer and the plant closing for a period of time, the P35 never made it to market. I have never opened a P35 but expect it to be about 3.4 cubic inch. The ignition is similar to a P41 (2 piece) so WOT would be around 9000 RPM. (my guess)
The P35 in the video is a low serial number saw. I know of one of the engineers at OMC tha also has a P35 non chainbreak model. His serial number is close to mine.

 

[pioneerguy600]

I hear that the P35 had cooling problems with the upright cylinder configuration. Would they overheat in a heavy cut?

 

[P62]

I had read that before and have seen a couple of 35's with extra holes cut in the side cover to allow more air flow. Modifications would have most likely been made after testing was complete before any were sold to the public. I ran a couple of tanks through 2 of mine without any issues and had no problem with the bar full of wood. That was in cooler weather (March/April) Mid July might be a different story.
A 16 inch bar was the right size for the saw. Very well balanced and cut great up to 12-14 inch wood.
Not to be compared to a 5 or 6 cube Pioneer.

 

[pioneerguy600]

No comparison to those bigger torque monsters but it would have been great to have seen the 35 make it to the market level. Pioneer just didn`t have deep enough pockets to make it happen.

 

[dieselfitter]

I finally got off my ass and took some pictures of Rocketnortons Pioneer 1074.
Pete had generously donated the NIB saw to the fundraiser for Phil Fortsch (chity avatar). Also pictured is the genuine NOS carry tray, donated by Wangerworks(Kris). Thanks again Pete and Kris.
Sorry for the poor quality of pictures. My phone is a POS.