Yeah, but a chock on both tires will hold 46,357 lbs
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Safe rope use to guide a falling tree.
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wanna bet on that?Yeah, but a chock on both tires will hold 46,357 lbs
Yes it is a good trick that I have often used. I use a comealong to tighten the rope with a log approximately in the middle of the rope.
Maybe you missed the sarcasm.
Regardless, I know how I'd do it if the intended lay was clear and the pull was easy to get 180 of the lean.
And if it wasn't I'd use the winch line or a rope to direct them to the side lean if the lay was clear.
That being said, a target rich environment is not the place to practice new techniques by yourself.
sgbotsford
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Bucket has a rounded back. Was thinking in terms of having the bucket about 3" off the ground. Rope would bend about 20 degrees over edge of bucket. Pad that with a chunk of pool noodle slid onto the rope.
pool noodle wont do much to protect a rope under tension being pulled over a sharp edge, ever tried to cut one? (rope under tension or pool noodle)
Read the whole thread, Zin. Believe me, the decision to use a pool noodle is the least of his worries.
ive read the whole thread, terrible setup from the get-go
my opinion, hire someone who knows what they are doing before you kill yourself
Its becoming very obvious that you have no clue what you are doing. You can't replace experience and training with math formulas. You don't redirect a rope in that manner for any reason and you never apply tension to a rope by running it under the bucket and over the cutting edge..
Make sure to get it on video though, and wear a hard hat. This will make the investigation process much easier...
Heres your sign
I mentioned it. Let me refer to my post “moving”. It’s straight up bad practice I don’t care how many times it hasn’t killed you.
^ all of this seems like a whole bunch of extra work with little to gain from it, other then some bitchin muscles and a lot of sweaty underoos
In the words of Kumail Nanjiani "just do the heroin"
I generally miss most sarcasm in written form...
Mostly I had to be sure lol, I tried chocking the tires on my skidder a few months ago... didn't go well at all. not sure the skidder even knew it was supposed to be parked.
we all do
John Rochester
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Tractors pulling up at an angle loose pull- because the back end lifts, as far as nylon goes it cold flows at the knot under load and breaks
lets rethink this
two things to try, but practice on smaller trees first
A chain hoist has lots of pull and fine in and out control but most-NOT ALL, are pretty short, so get ALL the slack out. I have a 3 ton 20 footer ,also they sometimes stick and need to be played with .
second look into jacking the tree as additional lift.
Consult-D DOUGLAS DENTS '' professional timber falling'' A BOOK
I've felled problem trees using a 20 ton post jack and two --1/4 inch steel plates
not as good as a proper tree jack, as the jack starts to tilt at maximum lift
as for an anchor, Dig a deep hole , and bury a log with a chain on it -fill in the hole,
the side of the hole nearest the tree should be straight up and down with only a narrow slot for the chain
this is an army trick ,but they bury a truck tire and rim
Welcome to AS John.
A rope would work just fine in this application. The problem is the lack of experience in a target rich environment, a rope, a tractor, and only one guy makes for a disaster waiting to happen. Now add more variables and that receipe just gets more convoluted.
There is a reason many professionals will not give advice, and even less on the net, its difficult to know what others know/comprehend. Funny how many will miss sarcasm, but then we try to explain things that are much more complex than a little sarcasm.
Usually I'd have said "lol" or
, but I figured the totally random number would be enough since we've already seen some crazy numbers in this thread.I'm sure if you would have been here while I was typing that post out you would have gotten the sarcasm by seeing the grin on my face
.Too bad the OP isn't near any of us, sure with a quick look at the sight a solution could be found that would be safe and efficient. Mine would still involve my little kubota though most likely, and that's not sarcasm.
It seems that you do not understand simple principles, or are afraid to do manual labor
There's a big difference between that and being knowledgeable enough to avoid extraneous steps that eat up time (and therefore money) unnecessarily. Hanging things from the pull rope is not going to make the difference between success and failure for someone who clearly doesn't know what they're doing and is trying to substitute math for knowledge and experience.
It seems to me the only reason to attach a weight midline is to attempt to do a 2 man job by yourself. Aside from just adding unneeded complexity to what is actually a simple job, you have lost all the safety factors an extra set of hands and eyes provides.
Keep in mind the OP is already out of his experience and comfort zone or he wouldn't be on here, and his plan and questions betray his lack of experience. For him to try this solo is just foolhardy.
