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Alrighty fellas, I am stumped

Anyone know what this is??

Sawyer? Grizz??

You older gents know older firearms

Guy in a gun group is wondering what it is. Story is, a widow is selling her deceased husbands toys…
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First impression was an underlever box lock that survived because it smashes one’s trigger finger under recoil and wasn’t shot much. 😉 That said, any chance it has proof marks on the bottom of the barrel lump? That might get us to the proper country and maybe a brand.

If he’s lucky maybe the inquirer can pick up guns for what the owner told his wife he paid for them. 😉
 
Love hearing that other gals are into welding. My daughter is planning on attending the local vocational school for welding next yearView attachment 1230035
I am taking welding at the local community college starting next month. They rarely have an opening there, especially for an older student who isn't attending full time, but I always wanted to learn.
I worked for a welding shop almost 50 years ago, but we did things like fix torches and deliver rental welders. Did very little welding ourselves.
I am going to try and get good at TIG welding aluminum.

Hopr your daughter loves it and does great!
 
I am taking welding at the local community college starting next month. They rarely have an opening there, especially for an older student who isn't attending full time, but I always wanted to learn.
I worked for a welding shop almost 50 years ago, but we did things like fix torches and deliver rental welders. Did very little welding ourselves.
I am going to try and get good at TIG welding aluminum.

Hopr your daughter loves it and does great!
Thanks, yes this class fills quickly. It’s a lottery system to get in. She is annoyed kids with good grades don’t get preference. Luckily I know all the automotive instructors, might have to pull a few strings for her.
 
Thanks, yes this class fills quickly. It’s a lottery system to get in. She is annoyed kids with good grades don’t get preference. Luckily I know all the automotive instructors, might have to pull a few strings for her.
I guess we're fortunate that we have a great program at a community college only 10 miles away. Some of the classes are offered in the evening, which I presume is because a number of the kids/adults are already working somewhere, but hasn't been an issue getting scheduled. My daughter is a night owl, so she's OK with it anyway.
 
Can't tell ya' how excited I am.
Heading to Spruce pine NC with chainsaws, drywall tools and electrical tools.
I'm one of those people that's always out of the loop but was looking for a way to get down there to help without a bunch of extra guessing and how to's.
Finally found the opportunity and I can't wait.
Leaving Jan 13 for a week and pulling a skid loader as well.
 
Alrighty fellas, I am stumped

Anyone know what this is??

Sawyer? Grizz??

You older gents know older firearms

Guy in a gun group is wondering what it is. Story is, a widow is selling her deceased husbands toys…
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I'd give $100. (sorry, it is an inside joke at another forum I am in.)

I don't have a timeframe yet. I'd guess roughly 1890-1900 or 1910

French sporting break-action shotguns made by the Manufacture d'Armes et de Cycles de Saint Étienne, later known as Manufrance (5 of them)​

 
Alrighty fellas, I am stumped

Anyone know what this is??

Sawyer? Grizz??

You older gents know older firearms

Guy in a gun group is wondering what it is. Story is, a widow is selling her deceased husbands toys…
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More info I found regarding proof marks:
You want the left column for St. Etienne. Poudre sans fumee means smokeless. Poudre Noir means black powder. Since I think it is from around the dawn of black powder, the proof marks can help date it. Someone much more knowledgable than I could date it from the markings, provided they are still present. One other clue is that the manufacture date may be under the buttplate, and the buttplate material also helps to date the antique.

https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/help-me-date-this-manufrance-robust-no-6.259500/

Ya gocher self a gen you wine frog gun! :)
 

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More info I found regarding proof marks:
You want the left column for St. Etienne. Poudre sans fumee means smokeless. Poudre Noir means black powder. Since I think it is from around the dawn of black powder, the proof marks can help date it. Someone much more knowledgable than I could date it from the markings, provided they are still present. One other clue is that the manufacture date may be under the buttplate, and the buttplate material also helps to date the antique.

https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/help-me-date-this-manufrance-robust-no-6.259500/

Ya gocher self a gen you wine frog gun! :)
Here is a "between the wars" example of what Manufrance (St. Etienne) was capable in the years between WWI and WWII. BTW, all the French automatic arms were made in the same plant as your antique. (up to ~1985)

https://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/arme/ideal-dart-type-356-ace-of-spades/?lang=en
 

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