Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[SS396driver]

Recently my daughter added on a 2 car garage to her house. The foundation was already in place. The garage prices ranged from $65,000 - $85,000. This was with attaching the garage to the house. There are (2) 8' x 8' insulated electric doors, one walkout door, a few windows, wired with 20 amp outlets, vinyl siding and insulated. I thought that these prices were a total ripoff. To get a building like yours for that price is awesome.

Stick built would be more than double maybe triple

Not a bad price for the building installed. I was around $15k for a 30x24x12, 2 years ago. The versa tube was $10k delivered i ended up going with.

This includes the Prodex insulation which is rather pricey . The insulation is close to 9k . But to install it correctly they need to add purlins to the building . The insulation needs a 1inch gap to the metal to achieve the R16 or it drops to like R5.
I could forgo it and install foam board or Spray foam but I really don’t think I’ll save much at all with 3 inch being so expensive . It’s 50-71 dollars a sheet then glue and tape and my time .

Going to get a quote from Versa tube but I really don’t think I want to install it myself

 

[sean donato]

Stick built would be more than double maybe triple



This includes the Prodex insulation which is rather pricey . The insulation is close to 9k . But to install it correctly they need to add purlins to the building . The insulation needs a 1inch gap to the metal to achieve the R16 or it drops to like R5.
I could forgo it and install foam board or Spray foam but I really don’t think I’ll save much at all with 3 inch being so expensive . It’s 50-71 dollars a sheet then glue and tape and my time .

Going to get a quote from Versa tube but I really don’t think I want to install it myself

insulation is a huge cost, I'm glad I got mine for "free" just cost the labor, tape and glue. I ran an air gap too, but just because I specified purlins/ hat channel so I could run the tin vertical instead of horizontal.
Putting the building up was fairly easy. If you had a few guys it could have been done in a couple days, tin and all. Took me about a week for the main structure, then like a month or so worth if evenings to do the tin.
Honestly, if I would have had the extra money I would have went with a company that included installation.
Would have saved me a ton of bs, and the shop would have been done a lot sooner.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

It’s Stihl own perprietary grind , but you could square grind it if chosen, its very fast and it’s NK , there’s no gullet , and the raker is totally different than others, View attachment 1229814View attachment 1229815

It looks fast! I'll have to look into getting a loop to try it out!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

It’s Stihl own perprietary grind , but you could square grind it if chosen, its very fast and it’s NK , there’s no gullet , and the raker is totally different than others, View attachment 1229814View attachment 1229815

So when you say it's Stihl's "own grind". Dose it require a special file or grinding stone? It doesn't look square, but it doesn't exactly look round either.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

insulation is a huge cost, I'm glad I got mine for "free" just cost the labor, tape and glue. I ran an air gap too, but just because I specified purlins/ hat channel so I could run the tin vertical instead of horizontal.
Putting the building up was fairly easy. If you had a few guys it could have been done in a couple days, tin and all. Took me about a week for the main structure, then like a month or so worth if evenings to do the tin.
Honestly, if I would have had the extra money I would have went with a company that included installation.
Would have saved me a ton of bs, and the shop would have been done a lot sooner.

I know a lot of folks up here in Alaska that milled their own lumber for their stick frame homes. They used all their kerf waste for insulating their walls. Apparently it works quite well! I imagine a person could go out and make a bunch of it with there powersaw and do the same thing. I'm building a 12×16 she shed for the Mrs. and I myself am considering using kerf waste for insulating the walls. As you said, insulation is expensive theses days. Along with all other building materials.

 

[Squareground3691]

So when you say it's Stihl's "own grind". Dose it require a special file or grinding stone? It doesn't look square, but it doesn't exactly look round either.

Nope , round or you could square it to , it’s just Stihl grind from factory,

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Hiked all over the mountain, saw tons of sign. Sadly very few new tracksView attachment 1229827View attachment 1229826

How about "Bigfoot"? Did you see him and happen to get a chance to exchange pleasantries with ol Squatchy?

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Nope , round or you could square it to , it’s just Stihl grind from factory,

Ok, gotchya

 

[MustangMike]

I know a lot of folks up here in Alaska that milled their own lumber for their stick frame homes. They used all their kerf waste for insulating their walls. Apparently it works quite well! I imagine a person could go out and make a bunch of it with there powersaw and do the same thing. I'm building a 12×16 she shed for the Mrs. and I myself am considering using kerf waste for insulating the walls. As you said, insulation is expensive theses days. Along with all other building materials.

Sawdust is a VG insulator; they used to use it to preserve ice back when folks needed ice squares for their ice boxes.

The problem is that it is NOT fire retardant, which is why most building codes will require real insulation. In fact, my favorite fire starter is wood noodles.

So, I would not recommend it for any building that you sleep in.

 

[MustangMike]

How about "Bigfoot"? Did you see him and happen to get a chance to exchange pleasantries with ol Squatchy?

They are hibernating!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Well, I'll gotta say Gents. I'm pretty dang impressed with the power this modified 390 makes. She's definitely got some sack and I do believe it will hang with both of my modified 661s all day! Feels a little awkward and cumbersome compared to a 661 and it dose vibrate a bit more I think, but what more can you expect from a Husky?

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Sawdust is a VG insulator; they used to use it to preserve ice back when folks needed ice squares for their ice boxes.

The problem is that it is NOT fire retardant, which is why most building codes will require real insulation. In fact, my favorite fire starter is wood noodles.

So, I would not recommend it for any building that you sleep in.

Most definitely not fire retardant. Use at your own risk for sure, but a good vapor barrier and dry wall would help against fire a little bit I would suspect.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

They are hibernating!

Oh, ok. That explains a lot.

 

[Squareground3691]

Ab

Well, I'll gotta say Gents. I'm pretty dang impressed with the power this modified 390 makes. She's definitely got some sack and I do believe it will hang with both of my modified 661s all day! Feels a little awkward and cumbersome compared to a 661 and it dose vibrate a bit more I think, but what more can you expect from a Husky?
View attachment 1231711About time you own a real saw ,

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Ab

You have a 395 if I remember right, or is it a 592? Either way. How would you compare it to the 390 as far as power output?

 

[Squareground3691]

You have a 395 if I rememberright. How would you compare it to the 390 as far as power output?

Try this one Stihl boy lol ,

 

[Squareground3691]

You have a 395 if I remember right, or is it a 592? Either way. How would you compare it to the 390 as far as power output?

Both, 395 ported, never ran a 390 thoe .

 

[bigbadbob]

Try this one Stihl boy lol ,

You need a bigger log,, that saw aint working hard at all.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

Try this one Stihl boy lol ,

Very nice! I have an older 088. However, I feel those bigger saws are suited to perform best with long bars. Say 42 inches on up. I rarely use my 088. It weights as much as the anchor on the destroyer I was stationed on in the Navy!

 

[Kodiak Kid]

You need a bigger log,, that saw aint working hard at all.

My thoughts exactly. Not justified in that small of wood. It sounds like a ripper though!