Short bar-long bar, whats up?

[chowdozer]

Sometimes it's not what bar you want, but what bar you need. Two weeks ago I took care of a couple of Doug Firs for a friend. The closest I could get my pickup was about 150 yards. So... you take a saw, gas, couple chains and wedges, some oil and a bottle of water. You got 1 saw to fell, buck and limb. You get used to it. No whining. Pass me my 28" bar please.

Driving right up to the tree would be nice. Then I could take all my saws and bars.

 

[Cam501]

I guess now that you've mentioned the bad back I can't give you hell for putting the shortest bar possible on your saws. 16" on you 361? I'd venture to say you'd onyl run a 20" on a 660 or a 395xp if you were using one of them. :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[04ultra]

I guess now that you've mentioned the bad back I can't give you hell for putting the shortest bar possible on your saws. 16" on you 361? I'd venture to say you'd onyl run a 20" on a 660 or a 395xp if you were using one of them. :hmm3grin2orange:

Nope 9 pin 16" on my 3120xp.........


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[Cedarkerf]

With 28 or 32 I can almost always make a single cut.Under 36" it seams retarded to cut the same log twice. Once for me thankyou.

 

[chowdozer]

With 28 or 32 I can almost always make a single cut.Under 36" it seams retarded to cut the same log twice. Once for me thankyou.

I'd rep you if I could.

 

[04ultra]

I'd rep you if I could.

Got him for ya.....



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[Cedarkerf]

Thanks Ultra

Look I got my fouth green box. Thanks dozer even if your shooting blanks.

 

[chowdozer]

Look I got my fouth green box. Thanks dozer even if your shooting blanks.

Cool, I'll catch up with that Ultra character later.

 

[manual]

West Coast Technique is just That. "A technique".

North East Technique is more like the swedes do it.
our pines are even harder then the east coast. "Tighter growth rings"
Hard woods is just what it is "hard"

I'm not saying that there is no need for a Long bar around here.
Not offend.
So a 20" bar works great, sometimes a over kill.
It is less costly to run smaller bars here Vrs. Long Bars. That is a factor I think about while cutting in a wood pile.
I would
Rather bend over with a 18 or 20" bar then spend more money on a longer bar also.
BTW I use my legs while bending and also try to elevate the wood

 

[maccall]

well im only 5' 6", must be the reason my longest bar is only 13" :hmm3grin2orange:

Yeah, that figures. I'm 5' 7" and the bar is 14". I think you cracked the code...:biggrinbounce2:

 

[SawTroll]

I can see where a long bar has it's place.

A 20" bar works for me just fine.
Tromping through the woods with a longer bar then what is needed is senseless around here.
And there is no need to carry a saw over your shoulder. thats why balance is important.
using a 16" bar is awesome for limbing if the tree allows you.

why bring a rino gun when your hunting deer.

You nailed it, I feel the same here......:rockn: :rockn:

 

[SawTroll]

Mine is a 13" for my 5100 and 346! HA

13" for the 353 here, but I never use it - balance is better with 15"...

 

[SawTroll]

I guess now that you've mentioned the bad back I can't give you hell for putting the shortest bar possible on your saws. 16" on you 361? ...

15" and 8-pin for limbing, 18" and 7-pin for most felling...........:rockn: :rockn:

 

[B_Turner]

Thanks goodness for neighbors.

Now that the fun parts is over the real work begins.

 

[PWB]

The other thing you west coast guys have to remember about cutting over here is that the different bush creates different problems. Walked in to limb and buck a big beech last weekend for firewood (dropped a week before) and had to fight through a whole bunch of 6 foot whips just about prefect for digging and planting. (landowner sells a few to the local nursery) bad enough with a short bar, try it with a 42"! We're attempting to do as little damage to his bush as we can...... (Friend and neighbor) BTW, felling cut was better than 4 feet across, I'm guessing 40 feet to the first crotch......

You guys don't have ALL the big trees........ There's an oak in this bush I'm guessing at 5 feet, they don't want to touch it, leaving it for posterity I guess. Still very healthy. Lots of fencerow elm that gets over 30 inches before it dies, shade tree maples in the 5 to 6 foot range......

 

[Lakeside53]

Cool, I'll catch up with that Ultra character later.

It will never happen...

 

[Woodie]

Look I got my fouth green box. Thanks dozer even if your shooting blanks.

No wonder...you get repped by Ultra* and it's like a 747 flying overhead and crapping greenpoints all over ya...



* That goes for a handful of others, too.

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

West Coast Technique is just That. "A technique".

Agreed. (Somebody write this down, Manual and I agree.)

But, when I think of our technique out here, I think more in terms of timber, not firewood. I even cut firewood with 18" or 20" bars on a Timberjack like you have.

...Unless I'm cutting through a stack of logs, in which case I use a 36" and cut rounds off the pile in 3' swaths!

 

[fishhuntcutwood]

You guys don't have ALL the big trees........

Nope, we do have the big trees on the 60 degree slopes.

If we falled timber on flat land we'd carry 20" bars too.

 

[manual]

Agreed. (Somebody write this down, Manual and I agree.)

But, when I think of our technique out here, I think more in terms of timber, not firewood. I even cut firewood with 18" or 20" bars on a Timberjack like you have.

...Unless I'm cutting through a stack of logs, in which case I use a 36" and cut rounds off the pile in 3' swaths!

Oh sure your technique for timber is not the same as ours in most cases.
reason being "Size"
A pice cutter out here can get by all day with a 18-20" bar and not think.
(wow I could have used a long bar).
In a case of cutting out of a pile. Around here and depending on what time of the year the wood was dragged out of the forest. I try not to cut stright out of the pile, instead I roll them out of the pile onto a skidway and then can cut more then one log at a time.
Reason being most logs are dragged and pick up dirt on the way to the landing, or the loader picks up dirt while claming the logs onto the truck.