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Ya, I enjoyed doing that tree. Everything went well. The only complaint I had was the fact that the customer kept coming over to watch and getting to close to the work area. :dizzy: Had to explain to him that if he wanted his tree down he would have to stay back at a safe distance! HC
 
Howdy!

Okay, I didn't do this TODAY, but I think it's fairly interesting.

The city that my employer is based in had a big creek clearing job that we won the bid for.

I packed up a few ground guys, some rubber boots, some chain saws, and a man-portable winch, and got to work.

Every single piece of wood we removed from that creek was either:

Stuck in the mud.

Under tremendous pressure from the 15 other trees on top of it.

Covered in poison ivy.


It took three months, and I met some of the most fantastic animals Florida has to offer, such as water-moccasins, spiders the size of a child's hand, snapping turtles (one of them tried to bite the foot off of one of my guys, and I think it could have. It had a head like a foster's beer can), and everything else under the sun.

In fact, the easiest part of the job was the tree-work part of it. I learned more about rigging, mechanical advantage, and wood-weight than I ever thought possible.

I remember at one point, we set a bull-line up into a live-oak with a pulley to help redirect a large log we were pulling from the creek. As I started up the winch and started pulling, the rope was feeding onto the drum no problem.

Actually, there was a problem. The rope was feeding onto the drum not because the log in the water was moving, but because I was bending the tree my rigging was in, to the point where we heard a huge BOOM, and down comes 5 tons of live oak and rigging. Scared the crap out of me.

All that was left was a jagged staub, and a tree top, which we also had to remove from the water.

What I learned:


Jungle boots are better than hip-waders for tree work in the water.

Throwballs are expendible.

Rotten palm trees spray fountains of horrible smelling fluid all over whoever cuts them with a chainsaw.

Chainsaws don't stand up to cutting things underwater for very long.

Ropes that break with 5000 pounds of tension sound like rifles and can take your head off.

You CAN free a pinched chainsaw with a machete, but it takes a very long time.

STIHL chainsaws are very dependable as long as you don't drop them into the river.

Never shimmy up a palm tree in shorts without verifying that what you thought was Virginia Creeper isn't in fact Poison Ivy.

Many fast-food establishments will refuse to serve a bunch of dudes covered in dry black mud carrying machetes who smell like something died in their pants.

Mac
 
TreeCo said:
That ash sounds like good material for errosion control!

Leave it there.

I probably will but it fell into a heavily treed area anyways, which did not look like it was susceptible to errosion. And in any event it fell pointing straight down the slope away from the hydro wires.
 
cannoneer said:
Chainsaws don't stand up to cutting things underwater for very long.

Ropes that break with 5000 pounds of tension sound like rifles and can take your head off.

You CAN free a pinched chainsaw with a machete, but it takes a very long time.

STIHL chainsaws are very dependable as long as you don't drop them into the river.

Never shimmy up a palm tree in shorts without verifying that what you thought was Virginia Creeper isn't in fact Poison Ivy.

Many fast-food establishments will refuse to serve a bunch of dudes covered in dry black mud carrying machetes who smell like something died in their pants.

Mac

:) Your lessons learned are great...I needed the laughs. It's funny how the words that relay the troubles you had can cause such smiles later.

Thanks for sharing. The words also bring up memories. I used a chainsaw to cut beaver dams once...makes a really impressive rooster tail of water and slings a slurry of mud and sawdust...dulls the chain pretty quick, too.
 
wow 3 months in the river clearing ,,i bet you are glad thats done ,,,,,,,,did your mention if yall made a good profit ? i hope so dark
 
darkstar said:
wow 3 months in the river clearing ,,i bet you are glad thats done ,,,,,,,,did your mention if yall made a good profit ? i hope so dark


I think I would rather have gone back to Baghdad than go back to those creeks. I was so glad when the work was done that I almost cried.

It was one of the most miserable, stinking, lousy, vermin infested, dangerous, and ugly jobs I've ever done.

And taking all of the above into consideration, I guess it was profitable, since we finished ahead of schedule with no major catastophes.

I'm not sure what my employer had to shell out for chains and lost t-wrenches, but i'm sure it cut into the bottom line. : )

Here's a picture:

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Mac
 
You're a warrior, dude. You forgot to mention the clouds of mosquitos you were kicking up.

Good on you that you all hung in there and finished. When your feet finally dry out, you can be regular treeguys again instead of this subaquatic treeguy subspecie. It was like 94 degrees (35 C) during that job, wasn't it?
 
Tree Machine said:
You're a warrior, dude. You forgot to mention the clouds of mosquitos you were kicking up.

Good on you that you all hung in there and finished. When your feet finally dry out, you can be regular treeguys again instead of this subaquatic treeguy subspecie. It was like 94 degrees (35 C) during that job, wasn't it?


SubAquatic Treeguy Subspecie?

hahahahahahahaha

I'm not sure how hot it was by the thermometer, but I'd say it was somewhere near "Hot As Satan's Taint" by my calculations.

It's funny, no matter what kind of crap job they throw at me nowadays, I can always say: "At least it aint as bad as the creeks" or "At least it aint as bad as Baghdad", depending on the overall crappiness of the job.

As far as the mosquitos, now that I think about it, there weren't too many of those, for some reason. Instead, we got those brown biting flies and nasty clouds of biting gnats.

And leeches. Can't forget about the leeches.

Mac
 
You're a specialist now, soldier. You're an STS technician. Your next mission, if you decide to accept it, it to prune pines during the storm surge of the next direct hurricane hit. Don't worry, it's not as bad as Baghdad, but it'll probably be a stretch tougher than 'the creek'.
 
Tree Machine said:
You're a specialist now, soldier. You're an STS technician. Your next mission, if you decide to accept it, it to prune pines during the storm surge of the next direct hurricane hit. Don't worry, it's not as bad as Baghdad, but it'll probably be a stretch tougher than 'the creek'.


Awesome. I'm gonna need 5 Guatemalans, a package of adult diapers, and a MK19 40mm grenade launcher to get at those "tough to reach" hangers.

Oh yeah, and a case of Milwaukee's Best.

Mac
 
Your such a noob. We don't use grenades to take out hangers. We use ultra-high frequency lasers to vaporize them. :Eye: There's much less cleanup. Use of grenade launchers is 'old school'. Hang with us, we'll lern ya.
 
Cannoneer, welcome to AS and good to see you other places also!

I did what I do every morning, check to see if Master Blaster, the creator of this fine thread, is UNBANNED.
 
Fill TM in on the haps!

stehansen said:
I feel like such a slacker.
Yea, but you have to tiptoe through political minefields where you live. You have more restrictions and ordinances and regulations and permissions and permits and paperwork and just to do business.

I'd almost rather be working in a swamp.
V-Hair said:
Check to see if Master Blaster, the creator of this fine thread, is UNBANNED.
Is it true he was banned for posting a picture of a hamburger?

See, I dropped out of site from Mid June to Mid July. During that time away, a lot happened here that I'm still very much in the dark. Did someone say Fuh-Uck, or something?

Now Master Blaster, we DO have a set of groundrules here. My assumption is that you stomped one of the groundrules into the earth. For a big, grown-up kid, you have remarkable adult tendencies and I think, and maybe you do too, that we should 'make right', come on back here and get things into balance again.
 
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