Some sawing, logging and skidding pics and videos ......

[Slamm]

Also is it me, or did you pull the sap wood on that log in your picture with you in it?

Which pic is that, and I could probably tell you, but honestly, sap wood, LOL. Hey, they have an airport around here if you want to just simply fly out here and walk around advising me on what and how I should do things. I usually have a couple of ATV's at the landing so you won't have to due much walking, just ride around and yell at us, when we screw up. I could even bring some folding chairs and a chalk board if you want.

You post 5 pics and one has 2+ feet of pulled fiber and you're going to jump me about sap wood, LOL. I guess, if nothing else you have a certain entertainment value.

Thanks,

Sam

 

[056kid]

2 feet? When you tear a 6'x2''x4'' piece odd the outside of a log that's a little more severe I think.

Ditto on the entertainment, I & I'm sure others got a big kick out of you not knowing how to re-rail a chain without removing the clutch cover. On that alone, the credibility factor kind of went down the drain LOL.

Your alright for flat country though I guess

 

[Slamm]

2 feet? When you tear a 6'x2''x4'' piece odd the outside of a log that's a little more severe I think.

Ditto on the entertainment, I & I'm sure others got a big kick out of you not knowing how to re-rail a chain without removing the clutch cover. On that alone, the credibility factor kind of went down the drain LOL.

Your alright for flat country though I guess

LOL, nice edit there. If your fiber pull is/was "the size of two drumsticks" as you put it and then removed it, then those drumsticks are either attached to a dinasour or your stump is about 12" wide and its not a big tree ............. take your pick.

As to my pulling "6'x2"x4"" out of the side of a tree, I've probably done it at some point, show me the photo though, cause, I'd like to see it, as it seems your ability to measure things is a bit off.

Later,

Sam

 

[056kid]

I did indeed move it, because it was inaccurate. the picture above the tree getting the saw wet. . . It looks like a piece is missing, doesn't look like a limb either, then it looks like it goes on down the log & out of the picture... Could just be where the tree slipped off the back off the stump and then nicked bark off when the log hit the stump. . .

 

[Slamm]

I did indeed move it, because it was inaccurate. the picture above the tree getting the saw wet. . . It looks like a piece is missing, doesn't look like a limb either, then it looks like it goes on down the log & out of the picture... Could just be where the tree slipped off the back off the stump and then nicked bark off when the log hit the stump. . .

Man you are a post editing son of a gun. That part of the tree is about 30 feet up that particular tree, as in it is the middle of the tree and that isn't its own stump in the same photo. If I ripped that much wood out of a tree, I would have fired myself. I don't know what that is, but it isn't anything regarding stump pull, cus that tree is huge and long and that isn't even anywhere near the butt of it. The tree that, that stump was attached too is long gone to the landing.

Please give up, its annoying,

Thanks,

Sam

 

[056kid]

Give up??

 

[slowp]

Which pic is that, and I could probably tell you, but honestly, sap wood, LOL. Hey, they have an airport around here if you want to just simply fly out here and walk around advising me on what and how I should do things. I usually have a couple of ATV's at the landing so you won't have to due much walking, just ride around and yell at us, when we screw up. I could even bring some folding chairs and a chalk board if you want.

You post 5 pics and one has 2+ feet of pulled fiber and you're going to jump me about sap wood, LOL. I guess, if nothing else you have a certain entertainment value.

Thanks,

Sam

That's my job, except I prefer to walk and yell at people. Actually yell to get their attention then we discuss things tactfully.

Hey, keep putting the pictures on.

Keeping a small operation with paid for equipment is a good thing right now.
The outfits around here that have done that, are still going although some are part timing it. It seems like the medium sized ones, who had just tried to get bigger, are the companies that failed in the last couple of years. The big boys are still going, but they have a lot of paid off equipment too.

If you enjoy what you are doing, are comfy with your methods, make enough money to support yourself, and keep getting jobs, more power to you.

Also, we like low stumps out here. Unless it is a cut tree marked unit. Then, if the timber markers/painters got their stump marks too high, the stumps need to be higher. Timber markers can be a pain sometimes...

 

[bitzer]

Honestly man, you have a great operation going. I was just thinking why limit yourself though. Obviously you've got your ways and they produce, but try a few things different, they may surprise you. I'm talking strictly falling here. Its amazing how much lift you'll get out of a solid single bit with a lot less effort. All the time you are thinking you are saving on the face you are spending on the back cut. That shallow of a face puts the fulcrum way out in front, which means a lot of unecessary wedging. That poplar with favorable lean for instance that you beat with a stick. You should have been racing that damn thing to the hinge instead of putzing around. Everyday in the woods is a learning experience. You can keep the stumps low enough too with different faces. Stay on the saw and cut the hinge if you like. Whatever. I'm always open to new/different techniques and I think every faller should be. Just more tools in the bag for the tree/situation. Really not trying to be a #### here and not saying my own #### don't stink. When you put yourself out here you will be gone over with a fine tooth comb. Take it as it is. I think you've got a sweet set up and do a hell of a good job.

I am just curious, why didn't you post this thread in the logging forum where it should be? Not in the place where the majority cut ten trees a year (or in a lifetime for that matter).

 

[Slamm]

I'm tired and will just put up some quick pics of the last few days.
Maybe I'll try and go back and narrate some of the pics in a day or two. Its raining right now, so I don't know what we'll do tomorrow, maybe just cut and leave the skidders off, since it might be too wet to pull anything.

 

[Slamm]

Landing after a lot of bucking up.

Truckers a coming, it rained last night so we had to make sure they could make it into the landing:

 

[Slamm]

One of the guys, cutting a large oak:

Here is a nice white oak.

Another White Oak, decent butt, but pretty rough up higher.

 

[Slamm]

Here are some different trees hitting the ground:

 

[tjbier]

Wow Sam thanks for sharing!
Nice opperation you have going, no matter what others say.
and that is some big hardwoods you have there, only wish we had em up here, trees that big here are few and far between.

 

[Slamm]

Here is a new 441R that my buddy just did up for me. Sure want to use it, but it looks too good to mess up. I just got it tonight, so I'll give it a whirl tomorrow.
I'm not real keen on the full wrap, but we are cutting higher stumps on this lower quality job with the rotten stumps and such. So it will for sure be handy here.

The paint job is House of Colors, candy something or other and its some multi-layer paint job deal with a very tough clear coat. We'll see how it runs tomorrow.

Testing it against the stock 441 will now be a problem since just this morning the stock 441 had its back handle crushed, so I'll just add it to the collection of 441's that are sitting at Terry's to get hopped up.

Later,

Sam

 

[Meadow Beaver]

Here is a new 441R that my buddy just did up for me. Sure want to use it, but it looks too good to mess up. I just got it tonight, so I'll give it a whirl tomorrow.
I'm not real keen on the full wrap, but we are cutting higher stumps on this lower quality job with the rotten stumps and such. So it will for sure be handy here.

The paint job is House of Colors, candy something or other and its some multi-layer paint job deal with a very tough clear coat. We'll see how it runs tomorrow.

Testing it against the stock 441 will now be a problem since just this morning the stock 441 had its back handle crushed, so I'll just add it to the collection of 441's that are sitting at Terry's to get hopped up.

Later,

Sam

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Are you on dope?!?!?!? Don't take it in the woods!!!!!!

 

[Slamm]

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Are you on dope?!?!?!? Don't take it in the woods!!!!!!

Yeah, I know. He kinda goes over board like this every now and then. Its a gift for some work I got him earlier this year. but ........... I really need to use it and I really don't want to, LOL!!!!!!

Life is full of problems, we just have to make the best of it, LOL.

I can't wait to run it, he did a lot of work on it and to it. I wonder how long it will be before it rides on the back of a skidder, LOL. Would it be bad to run it covered with bubble wrap.

Sam

 

[wigglesworth]

Holy Crap Sam!!!!! You werent kidding about the paint job.

Sucks about the 441 geting crushed. You seem to be making a habit of that lately.

 

[Slamm]

Holy Crap Sam!!!!! You werent kidding about the paint job.

Sucks about the 441 geting crushed. You seem to be making a habit of that lately.

Yeah, well this time it was the new guy, LOL. I would be more mad, but it was just a screw up. The two cutters Bert and Craig were tag teaming some maples that wanted to fall into a bean field. So they where setting them up and I was coming along and knocking them back into the woods. One of them needed to move the ATV and didn't pick up the stock 441 and well, it happened. He got a good butt chewing, and then got to run the BB660 for the rest of the day, as punishment. He was saying something about his hands being numb tonight, LOL.

He did pretty good today, cut 33 trees today and they all pretty much sucked in one way or the other. Bert cut 19 of those various monsters or other such novelty trees .... like double trees that had the fork about head height or higher.

I slipped that free gear oil into the bar oil jugs and it isn't working for the record. The chains are getting hot and sagging. I might try some STP in it tomorrow, but otherwise free clean 50W gear oil is going to get checked up as a no-go/failure. Before we were using some $4.99 per gallon crap and we had zero problems. Bert, ran two tanks of gear oil through the 660 and in the oak trees he keep saying "Something is not right about this saw, but I can't figure it out." LOL, I told him about the gear oil and he said get me something else that works. So off to Tractor Supply tomorrow morning, for some expensive $6+ per gallon oil ............ or some STP. I did a search and someone on here mixes 1-3 bottles of STP per 5 gallons of oil. I guess, if I get the oil for cheap or free, I could spend a little on some STP and see if it works. We sure are going through a lot of it.

We'll see,

Sam

 

[tlandrum]

well you know im not a big 441 fan but sam thats one sick puppy,id have to get a different set of plastics to run on it for woods duty. but is is nice none the less. on a side note i know exactly how it is to get a saw smashed by an employee. my last mashed saw came on the new guys 6th tree. needless to say there was never a 7th.

 

[2000ssm6]

That paint job is crazy! Very nice.