Some sawing, logging and skidding pics and videos ......

[Burvol]

and people out east arnt proud?

No, we are loggers. Not hobby loggers.

 

[awful knawful]

Keep the pics and vids comming Slamm! I'm really enjoying them!
Shawn

 

[GoRving]

Great pics. Thanks!!

 

[tlandrum]

i guess if you have so many different occupations then that is why your not a full on logging outfit. i still cant figure how you lose money on paper wood but its your choice. but the most of the forestry folks i log for would can you in a heart beat for leaving the paper wood . thats leaving a good resource on the ground to rot,what i see as being wasteful. it also adds to forest fire fuel. your a cut and run kind of logger whether your a fast cutter or not. you go in take the best cuts from the timber you fall and run to the next job just taking the cream from each job. around here folks dont care that your stumps are pretty . its about using all the resources that you have at hand and not choosing just what pays more and is fast and easy. you go in and make all the money you can with as slim a crew as you can get by with. thats the same goal i have except for one thing, i use all the tree that is salvagable. i put my resources to full use. thats why i get more work. i make the land company or sawmill all the money thats there to be had. i may not be making bank on the pulp wood but im not letting it rot in the woods. and for the falling all your trees in one lump ,that may fit your way of logging but thats just a pile of trash that will take longer to go back to the ground. if you cant make money from the wood that your already handling than your not doing something right. fall your trees however you feel comfortable getting them on the ground. i could care less what saw you use or how you put it to use. i just would like to see loggers either all in or all out. not just there while the money is good. if your gonna log be a damn logger not a fly by night outfit thats gonna bail at the first hint of it slowing down. i know you say youve been in for 5 or 6 years of logging. your a seasoned pro ,right... ive just been in it for 20 some odd years what do i know???? according to you i am some 25 year old with a skidder you do a lot of telling folks what works for you but from what i see your a small minority that can get away with the cut n run and stay busy. it looks like you have a good start on a real logging company. pony up and finish the job.

 

[Turkeyslayer]

I personally enjoy this thread although I could live without all the drama.

Like sands through an hour glass, these are the..........................

 

[bcorradi]

No, we are loggers. Not hobby loggers.

Huh didn't know that. My best buddy growing up (in northern, mn) has been logging the last 23 years as a 3rd generation logger. I'll have to enlighten him the next time I see him. Someone on the internet said your just a hobby logger.

Also, wth does your previous drinking habits have to do with this thread? Thats great that you find solace in the woods now that your sober, but it still doesn't have much if any to do with this thread.

This thread is about one guy giving us a snapshot on how he runs his operation out east. Most of us find it interesting and informative that he has spent the time giving it with us. The facts are he is comfortable and profitable using the techniques, equipment, etc. that he is using. How can you really belittle him for his techniques, equipment or sharing it with us without having the full picture of his operation?

 

[056kid]

i guess if you have so many different occupations then that is why your not a full on logging outfit. i still cant figure how you lose money on paper wood but its your choice. but the most of the forestry folks i log for would can you in a heart beat for leaving the paper wood . thats leaving a good resource on the ground to rot,what i see as being wasteful. it also adds to forest fire fuel. your a cut and run kind of logger whether your a fast cutter or not. you go in take the best cuts from the timber you fall and run to the next job just taking the cream from each job. around here folks dont care that your stumps are pretty . its about using all the resources that you have at hand and not choosing just what pays more and is fast and easy. you go in and make all the money you can with as slim a crew as you can get by with. thats the same goal i have except for one thing, i use all the tree that is salvagable. i put my resources to full use. thats why i get more work. i make the land company or sawmill all the money thats there to be had. i may not be making bank on the pulp wood but im not letting it rot in the woods. and for the falling all your trees in one lump ,that may fit your way of logging but thats just a pile of trash that will take longer to go back to the ground. if you cant make money from the wood that your already handling than your not doing something right. fall your trees however you feel comfortable getting them on the ground. i could care less what saw you use or how you put it to use. i just would like to see loggers either all in or all out. not just there while the money is good. if your gonna log be a damn logger not a fly by night outfit thats gonna bail at the first hint of it slowing down. i know you say youve been in for 5 or 6 years of logging. your a seasoned pro ,right... ive just been in it for 20 some odd years what do i know???? according to you i am some 25 year old with a skidder you do a lot of telling folks what works for you but from what i see your a small minority that can get away with the cut n run and stay busy. it looks like you have a good start on a real logging company. pony up and finish the job.

Nice post, i never knew he had only been in the biz for only 5 or 6 years but that puts things in to place. . . . . . . . . . . .

Like you I am completely miffed by the pulp wood deal. If you cut a nice log, you just got over 1000 at least at LEAST of good pulp.

That and alot more makes NO sence. . .

 

[2000ssm6]

No, we are loggers. Not hobby loggers.

Hey Bur, got any of these in the cabinet?

I like the massive timber in Warshington and Commie Cail but ya'll are giving us the images of how the guys act on AxMen.

 

[slowp]

There's Farmer Loggers. The loggers in this area will see a guy that they don't know show up for work with his pants tucked in his rubber caulks. They will spit, wipe off the mouth, and say, "He looks like a Farmer Logger." It is not a favorable term, but is a common one.

You can wear your pants tucked in and not be a Farmer Logger. A very good hooktender does so when the weather turns, and nobody calls him that. He also wore a white hard hat to annoy the crew.

The guy I call a hobby logger, has been logging all his life, but now seems to log only when a fishing or hunting season does not interfere. He takes days off to go fishing. Then logs a few days to make some money for fishing. He knows what he's doing, but has slowed down. I kind of like that idea.

The term logger can vary. A guy who has been a faller for 25 years and grew up learning from his dad who fell timber told me he was not a logger, he was a faller.
So, to each their own.

Me? I am pursuing a career change to a Hobby Forester. Maybe be a Farmer Skier.

 

[Burvol]

Hey Bur, got any of these in the cabinet?

I like the massive timber in Warshington and Commie Cail but ya'll are giving us the images of how the guys act on AxMen.

You don't know me.You strike me as a whiney type though. I am just merely implying HE HAS OTHER MONEY MAKERS. What he said, right? Not a full timer in the biz, cause he'll do what ever is "hot". I don't really give a **** either way. The hobby logger bit is just kind of knee jerk, but sorry you are so upset. I am not a mean person, I just have to scratch my head at AS once in a while. People either will blow someone for a used 460 with the rope haning out (you) or they will cut a tree down and say they are a "feller". Ted was kind of being honest, and Slamm acted like he was being mean. I see his point. If you want to scatter wood across the field like a county gtg for a 1/4 mile that's his choice. It's America, do what you want! As I say. The fact that you even watch that show...hmm.

 

[Burvol]

There's Farmer Loggers. The loggers in this area will see a guy that they don't know show up for work with his pants tucked in his rubber caulks. They will spit, wipe off the mouth, and say, "He looks like a Farmer Logger." It is not a favorable term, but is a common one.

You can wear your pants tucked in and not be a Farmer Logger. A very good hooktender does so when the weather turns, and nobody calls him that. He also wore a white hard hat to annoy the crew.

The guy I call a hobby logger, has been logging all his life, but now seems to log only when a fishing or hunting season does not interfere. He takes days off to go fishing. Then logs a few days to make some money for fishing. He knows what he's doing, but has slowed down. I kind of like that idea.

The term logger can vary. A guy who has been a faller for 25 years and grew up learning from his dad who fell timber told me he was not a logger, he was a faller.
So, to each their own.

Me? I am pursuing a career change to a Hobby Forester. Maybe be a Farmer Skier.

Exactly. It's not a bad thing. Touchy touchy...

 

[RandyMac]

Hey Bur, got any of these in the cabinet?

I like the massive timber in Warshington and Commie Cail but ya'll are giving us the images of how the guys act on AxMen.

What a pip and be carefull what you call some of us Californians, you sound like you have a chanker on the brain.

 

[Burvol]

Huh didn't know that. My best buddy growing up (in northern, mn) has been logging the last 23 years as a 3rd generation logger. I'll have to enlighten him the next time I see him. Someone on the internet said your just a hobby logger.

Also, wth does your previous drinking habits have to do with this thread? Thats great that you find solace in the woods now that your sober, but it still doesn't have much if any to do with this thread.

This thread is about one guy giving us a snapshot on how he runs his operation out east. Most of us find it interesting and informative that he has spent the time giving it with us. The facts are he is comfortable and profitable using the techniques, equipment, etc. that he is using. How can you really belittle him for his techniques, equipment or sharing it with us without having the full picture of his operation?

Wow, the fact that you would even mention me, if at all is nuts. Thanks. You clearly missed the context of that comment. I have bretheren on the east coast, good fallers, good loggers. Good people.

 

[johncinco]

Well after two days off and on I made it through all 12 pages. Could have been a "great" thread, if I could go in and delete all the BS that showed up.

Sam you seem to have figured out how to "work smarter not harder". You have your work figured like a business. What makes money stays, what does not somebody else can do. You also seem to fall into the Work Hard Play Hard category of guys. I can appreciate how you see things. I like to go fishing and riding myself, and let somebody else worry about the not-for-profit work. 6 hours at $100 an hour is still better than 8 hours at $50 an hour -more expenses. Some people catch on to that, others well they will still be working for someone else or headed out for another day long after they wish they could have quit.

Never try to teach a pig to sing, its wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Keep posting up, its some good reading and pics. More "pink" too, that's hilarious. I had to show that to the girlie.

Going to have to take my saw over to my buddy with an auto body shop and let him paint one up now. Thats awesome.

 

[bcorradi]

Hobby logger, hobby farmer, etc is doing it without expectation of being a primary source of income. Thats what I believe the definition is anyhow.

I'd classify slowp's definition of a hobby logger to be the definition of a part time logger.

 

[banshee67]

its a shame what happened to this nice thread made by a guy who is proud of HIS business
how many of you that are trashing his operation run your own companies?
its pretty easy to show up to work and take orders then go home and tell everyone how great you are at doing one thing and one thing only.
it takes a lot more than being a good tree faller to run a successful business like Slam is clearly doing... i think many people are missing that part.
how many of his critiques in this thread could start, and successfully run their own business? judging by some of the broken english and incomprehensible statements coming from some of these peoples keyboards, id say not many.
but then again, fancy things like english and all that learning stuff dont mean much to someone who can run a chainsaw correctly, right?
thats why slam runs his own business and you work for someone else cutting trees down when and where you are told to ... no offense intended, but the ignorance is just too much to watch without commenting sometimes
the guy is here sharing pictures and videos from his successful logging company which he runs and owns, id be proud too.

ps: one of the ugliest, most crooked face cuts ive ever seen posted on this forum was posted by a 'pro', from the pnw, posting in this thread... just saying

 

[Burvol]

its a shame what happened to this nice thread made by a guy who is proud of HIS business
how many of you that are trashing his operation run your own companies?
its pretty easy to show up to work and take orders then go home and tell everyone how great you are at doing one thing and one thing only.
it takes a lot more than being a good tree faller to run a successful business like Slam is clearly doing... i think many people are missing that part.
how many of his critiques in this thread could start, and successfully run their own business? judging by some of the broken english and incomprehensible statements coming from some of these peoples keyboards, id say not many.
but then again, fancy things like english and all that learning stuff dont mean much to someone who can run a chainsaw correctly, right?
thats why slam runs his own business and you work for someone else cutting trees down when and where you are told to ... no offense intended, but the ignorance is just too much to watch without commenting sometimes
the guy is here sharing pictures and videos from his successful logging company which he runs and owns, id be proud too.

ps: one of the ugliest, most crooked face cuts ive ever seen posted on this forum was posted by a 'pro', from the pnw, posting in this thread... just saying

Don't bother me a bit. Jesus Christ is the only one I know of who could make a perfect anything everytime. But hey, I cut thousands upon thousands of sticks a year, I'm sure one or two look a little less par than others. The fact that you even talk about a damn tree period is funny. I cut more by lunch than you do in a year, but I am not here to start a pissing match. I was originally saying 056 had some good points and Slamm got all defensive. All the wannabe loggers chimmed in like I am an arrogant know it all, and here we are. I posted a barber chair once. LOL I own my own business and I know what it takes to make one run. I am also a college graduate that finished school at night, every damn day after cutting logs all day. Did that routine for the last 2 years of it. What matters more than anything is how much Grit you got there boy. You don't see the angle from which we are coming from, but you act like you know how I should behave. When someone wants to show off how much coin they make and LEAVE WOOD behind it's wasteful. All loggers aren't idiots you #### ing ass wipe. Please referesh me with the picture as well.

 

[banshee67]

Don't bother me a bit. Jesus Christ is the only one I know of who could make a perfect anything everytime. But hey, I cut thousands upon thousands of sticks a year, I'm sure one or two look a little less par than others. The fact that you even talk about a damn tree period is funny. I cut more by lunch than you do in a year, but I am not here to start a pissing match. I was originally saying 056 had some good points and Slamm got all defensive. All the wannabe loggers chimmed in like I am an arrogant know it all, and here we are. I posted a barber chair once. LOL I own my own business and I know what it takes to make one run. I am also a college graduate that finished school at night, every damn day after cutting logs all day. Did that routine for the last 2 years of it. What matters more than anything is how much Grit you got there boy. You don't see the angle from which we are coming from, but you act like you know how I should behave. When someone wants to show off how much coin they make and LEAVE WOOD behind it's wasteful. All loggers aren't idiots you #### ing ass wipe. Please referesh me with the picture as well.

hey man , easy there, slow down, that last "ps" in my post wasnt even directed towards you at all, none of the post was, its just kind of "generally speaking" ,
and the last bit it was more or less a joke towards one of the pics i saw in your logging thread the other day, that was posted against another users will(so it seems),of someone who clearly isnt a faller like yourself, ill leave it at that, just jokes.. cmon man, calm down!
i dont drop nearly as many trees as you do, no way! and nowhere near as big either, but you damn sure dont drop more by lunch than i do in a year, although mine are probably considered llittle pecker poles to you, not that it matters, its fun either way , its not a contest , this thread shouldnt be a contest either, but they always turn into that it seems
i never called loggers dumb or any of that other stuff you assumed i was saying , and saying to you.
the way you jumped on me calling me names really didnt even deserve a response, but you got one because i dont want you to think im a douche talking #### to you about your career, when that wasnt even close to what was happening.. it didnt need to go as far as you took it, not at all. all i was saying is that slow is running a susesful business, hes his own man, let him do his own thing, at first a suggestion is a suggestion, but then quite a few people start getting nasty.. it makes no sense, anyway... , , ,

 

[bitzer]

And all of this from trying to post some tips and ideas.

Slamm, Directional falling can be done in ways other than yours and with about as much safety(danger) involved, even in hardwoods. You can even keep the faces low too and if done right without any pull. Boring is a neccesity in hardwood, not a catch all though. I don't even remember the last time I had a sound tree take off 90 degrees from my intended direction like one in one of your vids. Thats the kind of stuff that got me when I first made a post about falling technique. Again not speed, effciency. Hitting the holes so there is less damage to new growth. With how thick the new growth can get around here if I couldn't swing a tree I'd end up with about 1000 spring poles and really beat the #### out of things. The guys I work for don't really give a #### about the stumps being a foot off the ground, its the next generation of timber that concerns them.

I just don't get a guy that would post so much of his work and then not own up to it almost like it doesn't matter.

 

[2000ssm6]

You don't know me.You strike me as a whiney type though. I am just merely implying HE HAS OTHER MONEY MAKERS. What he said, right? Not a full timer in the biz, cause he'll do what ever is "hot". I don't really give a **** either way. The hobby logger bit is just kind of knee jerk, but sorry you are so upset. I am not a mean person, I just have to scratch my head at AS once in a while. People either will blow someone for a used 460 with the rope haning out (you) or they will cut a tree down and say they are a "feller". Ted was kind of being honest, and Slamm acted like he was being mean. I see his point. If you want to scatter wood across the field like a county gtg for a 1/4 mile that's his choice. It's America, do what you want! As I say. The fact that you even watch that show...hmm.

Sure........right. You strike me as a full of #### type. So I can take whiney.

btw, left 460s long ago. If it ain't a 044 or 440.....