the all aussie dribble thread!

[billyj]

tritons have been know for chassis flex, the ute tub will hit the cab at the top corners of the tub if used off road, also heard of a few that have actuallt bent the chassis just behing the front leaf spring mount(aftermarket airbags make this even worse)

 

[MCW]

evening Gentlemen,
got the tritan back today, new set of injectors, pc update, recall problem sorted.
Talked with the local stihl dealer who bought his tritan a few weeks later, he has 40k on his clock and has had the gearbox out(3rd gear loss), clutch replacement and a severe oil leak in the turbo. Now I'm wondering what is going to happen next.

Yep. 3rd gear is what continuously goes on them. Mainly the synchro.

 

[ozflea]

Time to get rid of it Neil ............. send it to the dustbin of history

 

[460cixy]

This jap gear is starting to make my landys look positively bullet proof

 

[ozflea]

This jap gear is starting to make my landys look positively bullet proof

I wouldn't laugh just yet their no better just more expensive to repair or maintan

 

[460cixy]

I hope your not a gambling man bob

 

[ozflea]

I hope your not a gambling man bob

Na still got the first penny I ever earn't

 

[tdi-rick]

I wouldn't laugh just yet their no better just more expensive to repair or maintan

Except the Landy is cheaper on parts than a Toyota or Nissan in my experience and parts are readily available from Sydney or Newcastle.

 

[derwoodii]

just spent a few hours fighting with a Crataegus hawthorn tree. Thorns 2inches long all over and to add it was covered in jasmine creeper and beside it was a pile of garden waste with bougainvillea hidden in it to chip, i got a few holes in ma hands to mend.
Job started poorly as I wandered around the tree checking how to drop it i put ma foot into creeper lasso and down i went,, some days it dont pay to git up n try

 

[Rudolf73]

just spent a few hours fighting with a Crataegus hawthorn tree. Thorns 2inches long all over and to add it was covered in jasmine creeper and beside it was a pile of garden waste with bougainvillea hidden in it to chip, i got a few holes in ma hands to mend.
Job started poorly as I wandered around the tree checking how to drop it i put ma foot into creeper lasso and down i went,, some days it dont pay to git up n try

Yup I hear ya on the thorns, we used to use boxthorn for firewood and you basically had to clear the tree of thorns before you get to the firewood. They get up to 4-5 inch long and will go through you foot if trodden on. Not much fun at all.

 

[MCW]

This jap gear is starting to make my landys look positively bullet proof

Not much Jap gear in any of these newer dual cab utes, I can assure you of that

 

[deye223]

Yep. 3rd gear is what continuously goes on them. Mainly the synchro.

synchros what are they mine crapped out about 5 years ago in 2nd &3rd haha gotta love an 85 hilux.

now my son BORROWED me 261 (and i use the term loosely) to cut a heap of yuccas are they ascitic like palms or will just a quick clean out do the job

 

[David (saltas)]

Mitsubishi—Triton 4WD Double Cab 07/13 MY & Challenger 4WD 10/13 MY
PRA number: 2013/13759
Date published: 26th September 2013

After operating the power seats reclining lever, the lever may stick in the operating position, allowing continuous current flow to the reclining motor.

Mitsubishi—Challenger 2WD 11/12 MY & 4WD 11/12 MY
PRA number: 2013/13840
Date published: 18th November 2013

There is a possibility of improper welding on Front Suspension Lower Control Arms (LCA) produced prior to Friday, 11 May 2012 which may result in the weld failing.

Mitsubishi—Triton & Challenger 12MY 4WD Front Propeller Shaft Inspection
PRA number: 2013/13844
Date published: 20th November 2013

There is a possibility of improper welding on front propeller shafts manufactured prior to Friday, 25 November 2011, which may result in the weld failing. If the weld fails, the front propeller shaft may break, resulting in damage to the fuel pipe. Normal acceleration or deceleration of the vehicle may also be affected.

 

[ozflea]

Thank Goodness I bought a Great Wall

 

[ausneil 1]

Mitsubishi—Triton 4WD Double Cab 07/13 MY & Challenger 4WD 10/13 MY
PRA number: 2013/13759
Date published: 26th September 2013

After operating the power seats reclining lever, the lever may stick in the operating position, allowing continuous current flow to the reclining motor.

Mitsubishi—Challenger 2WD 11/12 MY & 4WD 11/12 MY
PRA number: 2013/13840
Date published: 18th November 2013

There is a possibility of improper welding on Front Suspension Lower Control Arms (LCA) produced prior to Friday, 11 May 2012 which may result in the weld failing.

Mitsubishi—Triton & Challenger 12MY 4WD Front Propeller Shaft Inspection
PRA number: 2013/13844
Date published: 20th November 2013

There is a possibility of improper welding on front propeller shafts manufactured prior to Friday, 25 November 2011, which may result in the weld failing. If the weld fails, the front propeller shaft may break, resulting in damage to the fuel pipe. Normal acceleration or deceleration of the vehicle may also be affected.

Mine had its front suspension checked, this week, it also received a pc update.
I took it to work yesterday (almost 300km return) and it seemed ok again and driving as expected.

This vehicle of mine so far has been good, up until Monday when the injector failed, however that has been fixed and recorded. Another point is these work vehicles I run go into the bush daily carrying weight, they are in constant mud or bull dust, sometimes other drivers flog them (a bush saying, ''one can always get a mates 4x4 further and in steeper places than your own), and these utes which sadly have all turned into show ponies.
I never liked the Tritan from day 1 but hoped it would be a little better than the other new ones my mates were having trouble with like the Colorado and Mazda.
Another mate has now got a new D max, he drives on forestry roads daily to get home, he is like me happy with it but already the shine has worn off and rattles have already appeared.
So good members,,,, what do we working class timber men buy to get to work and back safely hmmmmmmm, perhaps go back to the unbreakable 3.9 diesel Toyota tray back with a 4 speed box and re tread tires doing about 90 top speed, laugh all you guys want but those bloody things were the best utes I used and some are still on the road today.

Perhaps a Great Wall,,,, well they are cheap, but will they take it, I do not know any in the bush to get feed back from. I hear yap from prowd owners big noting them saying how good they are . I suppose any bloody ute can get to the corner store to buy some milk or pick up a ride on mower now and then and return home without problems.
If I could see evidence the Great Wall ute can stand up to job I expect it to do I would gladly go and buy a new one (in diesel) after all, I have owned some bloody good work utes that have done a lot of hard work and took it.

 

[ausneil 1]

synchros what are they mine crapped out about 5 years ago in 2nd &3rd haha gotta love an 85 hilux.

Well my 1st 4x4 (second hand) was a 84 Nissan navara 2.5 diesel dual cab with a canopy. It looked good, sun raisers, alloy side steps, alloy bull bar and driving lights.
I was prowd of it, going to work with my tools locked in the back. Only problem was it was Nissans version of the Toyota Hill Detector, 110km all day on the flats until it saw a hill then down through the gears I would go and in a head wind it went faster in 4th. The price of having such a nice looking 4x4 but, then the gearbox lost 3rd and 5th coming out of the bush, I pulled out the box at the bosses place with his help, borrowed the money from him to repair it and we reinstalled it. Maybe 12 months later it **** itself again and by this time the suspension was rooted, exhaust was bent and leaking and the gear box was stuffed. Oh the joys of learning the hard way.

 

[ozflea]

Well since as Neil puts it's a bush baby like him the Great Wall will do me got my grocery shopping ........................... ha,ha,ha

 

[MCW]

It's a tough call on the newer dual cabs Neil. I do have a lot to do with farmers/growers and they all have dual cab utes with a lot of newer ones. I had no problems with my older Ranger at Landmark but it was a fuel guzzler. Then my uncle buys a brand new equivalent auto BT50 from Mazda and it was a complete Lemon.
My Navara was a nice bus but had too many issues and it's not the only one.
The newer Hiluxes well hmmm, they're just a Hilux but are pretty reliable as a whole but expensive and out of date for now (I think a new model will be out next year?). I actually rate the older 3.0L Hiluxes higher than the new ones even though they are rougher and noisier. A mate who works for Halliburton (mining) said they were going away from the Hiluxes and back to Cruiser utes.
I know a few guys with the newer Colorados and D-Max's. They are ho hum as well. Very ho hum in fact and the D-Max's are a bit out of date. Any thing that reminds me of an RA Rodeo brings a bit of vomit up in my mouth.
I know a few guys with the Volkswagon Amaroks and they are a nice bus on road. Regardless of the hype I have big issues with small diesels and highish kw outputs. This means a larger turbo which also means lag and poor low down torque - variable vane or not. It's easy to publish peak power and torque figures but meaningless when it's all above 2000rpm (like our old D40 Navara).
The pick for me is the new 3.2L Ranger and they have pretty well ironed the bugs out now. I was doing 145kph across a paddock the other night chasing emus and the stability control etc is awesome if you start to get it into a slide as you round them up. Way smarter than any vehicle I've ever driven and this is a poverty pack, base model ute too! The 2.2L 4 cylinder Rangers are gutless if towing. Bulk grunt with the 3.2L 5 cylinder, excellent towing, smooth, quiet, great stereo, and bloody good fuel economy for a 2.4T vehicle. Mine is averaging around 10L/100km and I don't drive it like a nanna either. If I got another one I'd get an auto this time.

As far as Great Walls go I know a few tightarse property owners that have bought their managers these vehicles. No major issues (just consistent, niggling things going wrong), but a guy who ran a Landmark advanced driving course who also runs tours across the Simpson Desert said there are two brands of vehicles he will never take across the desert again. These were Jeep and Great Wall. They had more issues than they could poke a stick at when the going got tough.

 

[ausneil 1]

It's a tough call on the newer dual cabs Neil. I do have a lot to do with farmers/growers and they all have dual cab utes with a lot of newer ones. I had no problems with my older Ranger at Landmark but it was a fuel guzzler. Then my uncle buys a brand new equivalent auto BT50 from Mazda and it was a complete Lemon.
My Navara was a nice bus but had too many issues and it's not the only one.
The newer Hiluxes well hmmm, they're just a Hilux but are pretty reliable as a whole but expensive and out of date for now (I think a new model will be out next year?). I actually rate the older 3.0L Hiluxes higher than the new ones even though they are rougher and noisier. A mate who works for Halliburton (mining) said they were going away from the Hiluxes and back to Cruiser utes.
I know a few guys with the newer Colorados and D-Max's. They are ho hum as well. Very ho hum in fact and the D-Max's are a bit out of date. Any thing that reminds me of an RA Rodeo brings a bit of vomit up in my mouth.
I know a few guys with the Volkswagon Amaroks and they are a nice bus on road. Regardless of the hype I have big issues with small diesels and highish kw outputs. This means a larger turbo which also means lag and poor low down torque - variable vane or not. It's easy to publish peak power and torque figures but meaningless when it's all above 2000rpm (like our old D40 Navara).
The pick for me is the new 3.2L Ranger and they have pretty well ironed the bugs out now. I was doing 145kph across a paddock the other night chasing emus and the stability control etc is awesome if you start to get it into a slide as you round them up. Way smarter than any vehicle I've ever driven and this is a poverty pack, base model ute too! The 2.2L 4 cylinder Rangers are gutless if towing. Bulk grunt with the 3.2L 5 cylinder, excellent towing, smooth, quiet, great stereo, and bloody good fuel economy for a 2.4T vehicle. Mine is averaging around 10L/100km and I don't drive it like a nanna either. If I got another one I'd get an auto this time.

As far as Great Walls go I know a few tightarse property owners that have bought their managers these vehicles. No major issues (just consistent, niggling things going wrong), but a guy who ran a Landmark advanced driving course who also runs tours across the Simpson Desert said there are two brands of vehicles he will never take across the desert again. These were Jeep and Great Wall. They had more issues than they could poke a stick at when the going got tough.

Interesting and informative Matt, as usual. I am not knocking the GW, but haven't heard any proof of their ability to cope off road carrying weight, even a simple drum of fuel and tool box adds problems to a vehicles durability. As your mate said regarding GW and Jeep excluded from desert crossing, this would not be said because he is biased towards them, it obvious they have issues making them unsatisfactory to the task at hand and its easier to exclude them than worry about what drama they will cause next.
I have not tried or had anything to do with the new rangers, and I don't know anyone in our game with them either.

So again I'm not knocking the GW, but I think its price reflects on the product and until I see evidence of their worth off road, someone else can buy them.
However from a town tradies ute perspective, I have heard good reports on both the petrol and diesel 4x2's and our local dealer is still selling them daily.
The other thing with GW, it opened the door allowing some buyers the opportunity to own a new ute where as the other brands were out of their affordability.
I asked my son if he would own a GW like Bob's 4x2, his reply was simply, you can buy it but I won't be seen driving it, however if one was sitting in the drive and he wanted to get to town he would drive it.

 

[ozflea]

Well I suppose the Great Wall doesn't have to much to worry about as regards it getting pinched then do I