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with the warranty i think there mostly bullchit anyway, if you want any warranty work done its a likely ship them back to US, or finland and fuc that .. lol . I live down the far south coast of NSW, 4 hour drive just to hit Sydney, once bought it'll be staying put

I probably should have clarified that you may need the warranty with the Remington and if you do you are unlikely to get any help. Major problems should show up immediately and if that's the case they'll just replace the whole gun. Remington will be good for it, Raytrade may not be. If I was you I'd start asking as many people as you can in as many rifle ranges as possible about what to buy. You'll hear more Remington new rifle horror stories than any other brand. I've spent a lot of time on numerous rifle ranges in the last 15 years.
A few guys at my local gunclub a few years back had issues with Sendero .300 Winchester Magnums they bought and they had all sorts of issues getting them fixed under warranty. Apparently one whole stage of the chamber finishing process had been missed and fired cartridges wouldn't extract.
It wouldn't be the first time that I've heard Australia gets all the reject Remingtons from the US. If you listen to the yanks they hardly ever have one single issue with them.

Also don't think I'm having a crack at Remington rifles as a whole. They are a great design and you can get all sorts of aftermarket goodies for them like triggers, stocks etc. I love my 700 now that all the gremlins are sorted. If I was building a custom hunting rifle (even low end target) it would be on a 700 action.
Problem is that I have heard of more problems with new Remington 700's than any other rifle brand and as Darren mentioned the importers do not have a good history with helping out dealers who have issues, assuming that is what Darren meant. Good chance that if you buy 2nd hand all the problems have already been sorted.

I know this isn't what you probably want to do but consider this...

Buy a 2nd hand 700 in medium action length (if you want a .308). Get a new high end barrel fitted. Buy decent aftermarket stock. Buy decent trigger set (Timney etc). You'll then have a custom type rifle that will shoot the nuts off a fly at 500m and you can basically call it your own. Nobody else will have one like it :) It won't cost much more than a new one but guaranteed it will probably shoot a lot better. That may be too much rooting around for you though but I'd consider it.
 
Long range mate , weights not a issue ...the Sako weights more than the XCR .

no joke mate 10 to 15 years ago i wouldn't piss on a savage but these things shoot like the wrath of Christ and you will have about $1800 for
a good scope vx3 6.5-20x50 i got two of them and the funny thing is there a lot clearer to use than the 4.5-14x50 had 3 of them and they are
crap compared to the 20x .

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10FCPMcMILLAN

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shoo...opes/vx-3-6-5-20x50mm-30mm-side-focus-target/
 
matt its not the rooting around so much mate, its more the distances to any gunshop . but yeah second hand 700 may be the ticket for a build, its a long road so many projects will present themself .

yeah Darrin I've been considering a Savage model 12 F/TR ,30" barrel . Theres one at the local Gunshop in .223 ,reload only being a fast 1.7" twist tho, good for 1000yrd with the 80-90gr pills
 
yeah Darrin I've been considering a Savage model 12 F/TR ,30" barrel . Theres one at the local Gunshop in .223 ,reload only being a fast 1.7" twist tho, good for 1000yrd with the 80-90gr pills

There is a review on that rifle in the latest Australian Shooter I reckon in 6.5/.284.
Looks bloody nice and awesome value.
 
There is a review on that rifle in the latest Australian Shooter I reckon in 6.5/.284.
Looks bloody nice and awesome value.
yeah the gunshop wants $1950 for the .223rem / just over $2000 for .308w i got quoted ....take 3 months+ to get other caliber from the states

edit: still waiting for that mag in the mail haha
 
no joke mate 10 to 15 years ago i wouldn't piss on a savage but these things shoot like the wrath of Christ and you will have about $1800 for
a good scope vx3 6.5-20x50 i got two of them and the funny thing is there a lot clearer to use than the 4.5-14x50 had 3 of them and they are
crap compared to the 20x .

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10FCPMcMILLAN

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-shoo...opes/vx-3-6-5-20x50mm-30mm-side-focus-target/

yeah mate i hear good things about savage these days, think there even giving the custom f-class rifles a good run for there money in there stock form, been a little hard tracking down there higher end models for a feel, lots of there rimfires and 1000 dollar models in the shops around the place but ...
 
yeah the gunshop wants $1950 for the .223rem / just over $2000 for .308w i got quoted ....take 3 months+ to get other caliber from the states

edit: still waiting for that mag in the mail haha

Crikeys men,,,, throwing lead up the paddock is getting expensive. I cannot remember what I payed for my last firearm new (ruger 77 stainless in 223) but it was no where near that much money.

Kaine, haven't you got any small husband / wife gun shops near by your place, rather than go all the way to Sydney, gee we have I think 4 here in my area close with a couple more a bit further away. 2- 3 in port Macquarie, 1-2 in Kempsey, 1 in Taree, 1-2 in Coffs Harbour.
One little shop in port are very good and knowledgeable, they seem to be very competitive and do a lot to help, they don't have a shop front in fact its an industrial bay with a couple of containers. This fella gets most of ports SSAA business and most of these little shops do gun smithing.
 
Crikeys men,,,, throwing lead up the paddock is getting expensive. I cannot remember what I payed for my last firearm new (ruger 77 stainless in 223) but it was no where near that much money.

Kaine, haven't you got any small husband / wife gun shops near by your place, rather than go all the way to Sydney, gee we have I think 4 here in my area close with a couple more a bit further away. 2- 3 in port Macquarie, 1-2 in Kempsey, 1 in Taree, 1-2 in Coffs Harbour.
One little shop in port are very good and knowledgeable, they seem to be very competitive and do a lot to help, they don't have a shop front in fact its an industrial bay with a couple of containers. This fella gets most of ports SSAA business and most of these little shops do gun smithing.

I feel his pain I'm in the nations Capitol and have to go to Sydney our two shops here are just crap we can't even buy powder here. But matts right about the lemington some may remember a few months ago I posted about my mates that wouldn't shoot for **** sent it back ect ect ended up screwing a new madco barrel on it and its a winner
 
Neil we got a really good ammo supplier just 5k up the road who can also order in any firearm if its available, they supplies the local ssaa branch with ammo and the much of region (Bettington Ammo at Mogo) and a good friendly little gunshop just up the mountain in Braidwood, but its all order in if you want something that's not on the shelf, if you want to shoulder anything before laying down money its a drive to Sydney, and hope to find it there. .

I have found one of these i may look at .

OMARK model 44 .308 1 PIECE MOUNTS AND RINGS LYNX 6 X 42 WITH ON THE FLY ADJUSTMENTS HVY BARREL CUSTOM STOCK WITH BIPOD RAIL. $800

 
Neil we got a really good ammo supplier just 5k up the road who can also order in any firearm if its available, they supplies the local ssaa branch with ammo and the much of region (Bettington Ammo at Mogo) and a good friendly little gunshop just up the mountain in Braidwood, but its all order in if you want something that's not on the shelf, if you want to shoulder anything before laying down money its a drive to Sydney, and hope to find it there. .

I have found one of these i may look at .

OMARK model 44 .308 1 PIECE MOUNTS AND RINGS LYNX 6 X 42 WITH ON THE FLY ADJUSTMENTS HVY BARREL CUSTOM STOCK WITH BIPOD RAIL. $800



I have one of these there a target rifle and super accurate great spotlighter but single shot not that is a problem as long as you do your part anything you point an omark at will die. There also sold as a sportco44 And of course omark comes under the Oregon umbrella of company's . Some light reading for anyone intrested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportco http://www.sportco.org.au/models.htm
 
I feel his pain I'm in the nations Capitol and have to go to Sydney our two shops here are just crap we can't even buy powder here. But matts right about the lemington some may remember a few months ago I posted about my mates that wouldn't shoot for **** sent it back ect ect ended up screwing a new madco barrel on it and its a winner
Im hearing you mate.Even back in the Day Canberra was hopeless for amo etc...went there for the day years ago loaded with coin to stock up and came back with zip.I could personally use a lot of amo in that part of the world...if you get my drift :mad:
 
Neil we got a really good ammo supplier just 5k up the road who can also order in any firearm if its available, they supplies the local ssaa branch with ammo and the much of region (Bettington Ammo at Mogo) and a good friendly little gunshop just up the mountain in Braidwood, but its all order in if you want something that's not on the shelf, if you want to shoulder anything before laying down money its a drive to Sydney, and hope to find it there. .

I have found one of these i may look at .

OMARK model 44 .308 1 PIECE MOUNTS AND RINGS LYNX 6 X 42 WITH ON THE FLY ADJUSTMENTS HVY BARREL CUSTOM STOCK WITH BIPOD RAIL. $800


Yea sounds simular to here, and your right, our guys only have a selection of used firearms with a few new ones and they are obviously stuff easily sold off. Our local Kempsey shop used to have a 460 rigby (I think) which most who walked in had a feel of her but she stayed on the rack for yonks, guess eventually it sold.
Surprisingly they sold a few 45/70 handy rifles (single shot), Kempsey ssaa used to see them come out with the 200m milk bottle off hand. Building rabbit burrows 20 feet before the sleepers, then someone would hit the sleeper and knock all the bottles down. They are fun seeing one hit but.
 
Too bloody right mate. Savages are starting to kick serious arse and by all accounts their barrels and bedding are top shelf. Good triggers too.

Have an old, old Savage in 22 Hornet that is an absolute track driver.

It's an average looking rifle, no style whatsoever but god it can shoot.



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