I guess I can check against a new chain and see!!
361 getting Woods Modded
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I wonder that too!!! There will prolly be a learning curve on that one!!!
Id be willing to offer mine up so long as its returned to me in the same or better condition!!
I just heard from Dave. My saw arrived this afternoon. He checked the compression for me straight out of the box and it was an amazing 180psi! I'm thrilled and surprised. My guage only measured 135psi and that's why he checked it for me right away. Quite needless to say, I'm shopping for a new guage. The one I have is a KAL Equi 2504. It has a schrader valve right at the guage. Isn't that what I need? What model have you guys found to work well and be dependable without spending an arm and a leg?
It looks like this here, only they're not showing the schrader valve on the guage. Mine has one. Perhaps it's on the back side in this pic.
It looks like this here, only they're not showing the schrader valve on the guage. Mine has one. Perhaps it's on the back side in this pic.
SmokinDodge
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I use the 55 degree mark as well, might just be the Northern Grinder. Casey don't you have a Maxx?
Yes, gotten pretty good with it too.
I havent checked yet, but running the head angle at 55 will just give you a little more hook. Ive "fixed" all my filed chains and with the head at 60 and it appears to have a tad more hook than it did when I was using the file guide.
I havent checked yet, but running the head angle at 55 will just give you a little more hook. Ive "fixed" all my filed chains and with the head at 60 and it appears to have a tad more hook than it did when I was using the file guide.
I just heard from Dave. My saw arrived this afternoon. He checked the compression for me straight out of the box and it was an amazing 180psi! I'm thrilled and surprised. My guage only measured 135psi and that's why he checked it for me right away. Quite needless to say, I'm shopping for a new guage. The one I have is a KAL Equi 2504. It has a schrader valve right at the guage. Isn't that what I need? What model have you guys found to work well and be dependable without spending an arm and a leg?
It looks like this here, only they're not showing the schrader valve on the guage. Mine has one. Perhaps it's on the back side in this pic.
Leave the metal adapter off and screw just the hose into plug hole then hook up gauge to rubber hose. Should get proper readings without the metal adapter hooked up, least it did with mine.
I haven't ever used the adapter. Hmm.
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
It doens't matter if you have a valve at the gauge - you need one at the tip that screws into the spark plug hole. If you can't see it right there, it's not useful for your saw needs.
I paid less than $20 for mine at the local autoparts store. It doesn't even have a name on it. You don't have to spend much to get the right type...
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Looks like I spent too much on my gauge.
Next time I'll go to my local H.D. to get the right type of saw.
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I just checked my guage a few minutes ago and it does have the one-way valve. The Schrader valve was sticking. I put the adapter on the end so that I could put my rubber tipped air chuck on it. If the tester was 15lb less than the compressor and I gave it another shot, it wouldn't go up any more. In other words, the tester was at 125 and the compressor at 140 and the tester wouldn't go up. If I gave it a blast from 0 it would go up where it should. Even then it was reading a little low. I switched the Schrader valve with the one up by the gauge and it'll now move with even a 5lb difference. I pulled needle off and set it to match the two gauges on my compressor
I have a saw I bought with an advertised 175psi compression. Before I was only getting 155. Now I'm getting 170-175. So I've fixed my gauge.
I have a saw I bought with an advertised 175psi compression. Before I was only getting 155. Now I'm getting 170-175. So I've fixed my gauge.
Just heard from Dave. I should have my 361 back tomorrow. Needless to say, I'm quite anxious.
Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
If you never even had the muffer ported before,
HANG ON,
and
QUIT SMILING
HANG ON,
and
QUIT SMILING
you did take some cuts BEFORE you had it modded, right? I am almost as excited as you about this! put some videos up when you make your cuts!!
Actually I didn't. I bought it from Curt Bailey and sent it to Big Dave before I even used it. I have run a 360 and a 460 for comparison. I was impressed with a 360 and a muffler mod. I'm hoping for a saw with the weight of a 360/361 and the power of a 440 or 460. From what I hear, just a muffler mod alone gets it close to a stock 441. This ought to be fun fo sho.:biggrinbounce2:
Youll like it...mine came back trying to get out of the box on his own.
Time for Review!!
I finally had a chance to get out and use my DN361, although not enough to give it a good shake down. It starts easily, easier than stock, and runs great. Idles good too. He returned it with the top end set to just shy of 14K. Unfortunately, I never ran the saw stock to be able to compare. I believe I had unrealistic hopes that it would replace a stock 460. That's not the case, nor has anyone told me it would. It is faster than my 460 in 20" wood but it doesn't have near the torque. The 361 doesn't just fall on it's face if you lean on it a little, but it cuts much faster if you just let it walk it's way through the wood. I suppose that's the way it should be done anyway. If you're wanting to lean on it, or are cutting out a 20" stump, it's no replacement for the 460.
NONE of this is meant to be a negative on the 361. It screams and runs perfectly. What I learned today is that every saw has it's place and use. I now know why a three saw setup is so nice. The 361 doesn't replace the 260 on stuff <6". The 260 is a blast to use on the small stuff. Anything from there up to maybe 16"-20", the 361 shines. Above that, I'd say it's a toss up on your cutting style whether you'd want the DN361 or the 460. With a lighter hand the 361 was still faster on the 20" wood I was cutting. If you want to lean on it, go for the 460.
I don't know what the wood was, but it was a hardwood. It was rather orange in the center. Hedge apple? I cut it down, so it was definately green. Also, the temps have been in the single digits and could have well been frozen.
BTW, I HIGHLY recommend Big Dave. He only had my saw one week. Instead of just poking holes in my muffler, he put it on the starter side with a deflector and screen. It looks totally stock. I've yet to read anything negative about Big Dave. And he's got the years of experience to back him.
I finally had a chance to get out and use my DN361, although not enough to give it a good shake down. It starts easily, easier than stock, and runs great. Idles good too. He returned it with the top end set to just shy of 14K. Unfortunately, I never ran the saw stock to be able to compare. I believe I had unrealistic hopes that it would replace a stock 460. That's not the case, nor has anyone told me it would. It is faster than my 460 in 20" wood but it doesn't have near the torque. The 361 doesn't just fall on it's face if you lean on it a little, but it cuts much faster if you just let it walk it's way through the wood. I suppose that's the way it should be done anyway. If you're wanting to lean on it, or are cutting out a 20" stump, it's no replacement for the 460.
NONE of this is meant to be a negative on the 361. It screams and runs perfectly. What I learned today is that every saw has it's place and use. I now know why a three saw setup is so nice. The 361 doesn't replace the 260 on stuff <6". The 260 is a blast to use on the small stuff. Anything from there up to maybe 16"-20", the 361 shines. Above that, I'd say it's a toss up on your cutting style whether you'd want the DN361 or the 460. With a lighter hand the 361 was still faster on the 20" wood I was cutting. If you want to lean on it, go for the 460.
I don't know what the wood was, but it was a hardwood. It was rather orange in the center. Hedge apple? I cut it down, so it was definately green. Also, the temps have been in the single digits and could have well been frozen.
BTW, I HIGHLY recommend Big Dave. He only had my saw one week. Instead of just poking holes in my muffler, he put it on the starter side with a deflector and screen. It looks totally stock. I've yet to read anything negative about Big Dave. And he's got the years of experience to back him.
B_Turner
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In wood of any size, my money's on the 441 by three lengths.
(I am taking artisitc license here , I admittedly don't know lengths of what.)
Not a jab at DN, as I have heard good stuff about him.)
