661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[Hedgerow]

I'm 38 and am not hurting by any means..

Yeah...
But you live in da UP...
So you're suspect at best...
LOL..

 

[redbull660]

This has turned into an all out insult fest LMAO!!!!!!! Well im going to watch a movie with the wifey. later oil dorks.

 

[bwalker]

It won't..
I don't think that's what RB was insinuating from the beginning..
It was the fact that 32:1 H1R ran worse than 50:1 H1R in the mt 661 saws..
Enough so to make up a good port Jon's difference..
He thinks it's a thickness issue and the other fella thinks it's a poor quality issue..
And there you have it professor..
Analyze...
I

Thickness has nothing to do with it or oils like 800t r50 would have the same chitty reputation as H1R. They dont.

 

[porsche965]

My bone stock 562 runs great at 32:1

Why would you run a stock saw that was engineered to run at 50:1 on 32:1? Wouldn't that be a waste of oil?

I still have a hard time believing that the engineers at Stihl and Husqvarna are this wrong.

 

[bwalker]

yamacrap is so thin u could probably run it at 20:1

Again, you exhibit your stupidity.
2r has won more than that tar you use and by a huge margin... but those jap engineers don't know **** and keep running that thin oil.

 

[bwalker]

yamacrap is so thin u could probably run it at 20:1

Again, you exhibit your stupidity.
2r has won more than that tar you use and by a huge margin... but those jap engineers don't know **** and keep running that thin oil.

 

[Andyshine77]

It won't..
I don't think that's what RB was insinuating from the beginning..
It was the fact that 32:1 H1R ran worse than 50:1 H1R in the mt 661 saws..
Enough so to make up a good port Jon's difference..
He thinks it's a thickness issue and the other fella thinks it's a poor quality issue..
And there you have it professor..
Analyze...
I

I have not experienced this with any other oil except Klotz SuperTech. H1R is a low quality product, the thickness is not the issue R50 is just as thick if not more so.

 

[bwalker]

Why would you run a stock saw that was engineered to run at 50:1 on 32:1? Wouldn't that be a waste of oil?

I still have a hard time believing that the engineers at Stihl and Husqvarna are this wrong.

Better ring seal, more power, longer bearing life. Works good for me.

 

[bwalker]

I have not experienced this with any other other than Klotz SuperTech. H1R is a low quality product, the thickness is not the issue, R50 is just as thick if not more so.

Thickness has zero to do with it.
Let's say you removed the solvent from 2R. It would be much thicker than H1R and it would still burn just fine. The stuff burns clean down to 16:1, doesn't effect combustion and doesn't lower octane.. same can't be said for H1R. It really is crap.

 

[porsche965]

Works good for me.

That's all that really counts at the end of the day I guess. Confidence in running what you truly believe in is a victory in itself.

 

[Andyshine77]

Why would you run a stock saw that was engineered to run at 50:1 on 32:1? Wouldn't that be a waste of oil?

I still have a hard time believing that the engineers at Stihl and Husqvarna are this wrong.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/part-2-siezures-oil-ratio-and-fuel-poll.46217/
http://www.klemmvintage.com/oils.htm

 

[KG441c]

Works good for me.

Myself I dont feel comfortable with the bottomend @ 50:1 on a ported saw

 

[Hedgerow]

Thickness has nothing to do with it or oils like 800t r50 would have the same chitty reputation as H1R. They dont.

The saw Mitch ported was very close to Randy's 661 but was running 32:1...
Not H1R... But a different brand..

I could actually care less about most of this ****.. But if someone knew for a fact a different blend at 25:1 made more power than mine, I'd listen...
For play only, as I have no intention of changing the herd's diet for production use..

 

[bwalker]

Myself I dont feel comfortable with the bottomend @ 50:1 on a ported saw

I don't feel good running 50:1 in any air cooled ope.

 

[Hedgerow]

Hey Andy.... Let's race 4 cube's...
I'll run 40:1, and you can run a muff modded at any oil mix you want..


I get your saw when we done...

 

[blsnelling]

77 - has nothing to do with confidence. I think it would be closer than you think. That's what I think.

muff modded 372 whatever it is with whatever oil I want vs ported 372 running 32:1 r50 sludge. ...yeah it would be way closer than u think it would be. would it win. i dunno. would i do it. sure.

Have you not run a ported 372?

 

[Hedgerow]

Sure got dead all the sudden in here..

 

[blsnelling]

Easy young buck this isn't a blood sport.

If the posted saw wasn't tested against other stock saws to determine if it actually makes more power than stock, the test results have even less validity. Ive ported saws that didn't make any gains, so has Brad, Randy and every saw builder I know. So I'm not downing Randy you or anyone else, **** happens.

But get the straight, one half baked comparison is not even being close to the gospel. Slowdown and ease up off more experience individuals, you're not helping your cause by lashing out with nonsense.

Andre is right. Until you run both saws on the same fuels, you have no baseline from which to draw any conclusions.

I laid out a long time ago what I believe needs tested. I'm not digging back through the thread to find it. Redbull, you pretty much said the same thing earlier today.

 

[blsnelling]

Sure got dead all the sudden in here..

I get busy this evening, and come back to 5 more pages to read! How dare you have all the fun while I'm gone, lol

 

[porsche965]

This is why we need a structured methodology of testing drawn up first, that we all can agree to, then bring on the oils.