I'd have to say this has to be the quickest thread to reach 100+ pages in my tenure on any forum.
661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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redbull660
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sorry man. don't understand the logic of your question...
if I could tell the future, no I wouldn't have started the thread in the "first place". Since I don't know the future, I started the thread under the premise of doing some tests that would be beneficial to AS community and having some constructive interaction.
"are you agreeing that much more testing..." yeah I pretty much said exactly that in the above post before yours.
Big_Wood
westcoast dweller
i am mostly sick of oil threads in general but decided maybe i should peek into this. wish i hadn't. were talking like 3-7% of total volume here guys. go have a beer and chill the **** out LOL forest workers here have no choice what they run. the company buys the cheapest **** fuel and cheapest **** oil to mix it with at 50:1. it takes them 2 years to kill a saw. even the ported 372/390's that everyone says the bearings go in. only 1-2% of AS are capable of killing a saw without it suffering a lean or straight gas death. there is a drama queen in this thread and it ain't redbull660! LOL
Anyone is capable of killing a saw in an afternoon if you run the pee out of it with a dull chain
Big_Wood
westcoast dweller
what i meant was only 1-2% is capable of killing a saw from real use day in day out cause no one uses their saw enough. i'm sure the majority here could kill a saw like you said and i'm sure a large number of them have. LOL either way, if a faller can get 2 years out of a saw running potentially the highest ethanol content available with the cheapest generic oil available on the shelf then nobody here as anything to worry about. go cut wood people
I heard that those big huskys only lasted 40 hours out in the great west. Or maybe someone was just talkin a little smack on the internet
Trx250r180
Saw polisher
Big_Wood
westcoast dweller
I heard that those big huskys only lasted 40 hours out in the great west. Or maybe someone was just talkin a little smack on the internet
so we agree LOL my buddy vern has a 385 from 2005 that is a spare now but it's first 2 years were regular service on **** company mix. the thing still runs great. of course, you can really feel it is weak compared to a new one but it does still run nonetheless. the right tune is the biggest thing. alot of BS here on AS. overrating and completely false statements in general. the real world is where it's at.
Time's Standing Stihl
ArboristSite Operative
Crazy is my middle name
The misinformation us coming from one direction...
Big_Wood
westcoast dweller
maybe the misinformation is coming from one direction which i do not know nor care but one thing for certain is, the drama is coming from one direction and i think everyone can see what direction that is.
Not really.
I don't disagree. Most ho's run out of wood before they work a saw to the breaking point. But not impossible.
Trx250r180
Saw polisher
That cutting with a dull chain till the paint burns off the bar is just wrong .
KenJax Tree
Terraphobic
I cut until the paint burns off one side then flip the bar until it burns off that side then i sharpen the chain and repeat.
Well... I for one ain't learned a damn thing from this thread... except that some people believe some pretty wild stuff about two-stroke oil, and will fault anyone with results contrary to their beliefs.
Just too many absolutes being thrown out...
For example "More Oil = More Power"... well then, why stop at 32:1, or 24:1, or even 8:1?? Heck, if more oil = more power why not mix it 1:1?? Oh, I see, too much oil = less power. So if you're running 8:1 than less oil = more power. But... but... but... I thought more oil = more power. So more oil doesn't always = more power, sometimes less oil = more power... unless it's not enough oil than more oil = more power. See what I mean... I already knew that too much oil, or too little oil, was detrimental to performance... so I didn't learn sour owl squat.
Along that line... there ain't no friggin' way anyone can claim a 32:1 (or whatever) mix of any particular oil is "best" for every engine, every saw, in all conditions... it might be perfect for yours, it might be horrible in mine. Too many variables, it depends, there ain't no absolutes... there ain't no magic...
Personally I don't care to use any two-stroke oil with directions on the label for multiple mix ratios... in my experience a jack of all trades is a master of none.
I mean, c'mon, talk about a CYA lack of commitment... if you can't commit and stand behind your product, than I ain't gonna' lay out my cash for it (shrug)
But that's just me... I ain't suggesting anyone should do as I do.
The truth is, after reading all of this, I've concluded the smartest thing I can do is to just continue doing what I've been doing... that is pouring the same 50:1 (dino) mix in all the two-stroke OPE, even the old 1970s vintage stuff that originally ran on 16:1. As the mix oil has evolved over the years from 16:1, to 24:1, to 32;1, to 40:1, and now 50:1, I've experienced fewer and fewer starting/running problems, never foul a plug anymore, and rarely have to adjust carbs... even in the really old stuff (oh... and I've never seized one neither). That's worth a whole lot more to me than any ½% increase in power, or a ½% decrease in fuel consumption, or whatever else the claims are... I just want 'em to start and run when I need 'em... there was a day when ya' couldn't count on that.
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Just too many absolutes being thrown out...
For example "More Oil = More Power"... well then, why stop at 32:1, or 24:1, or even 8:1?? Heck, if more oil = more power why not mix it 1:1?? Oh, I see, too much oil = less power. So if you're running 8:1 than less oil = more power. But... but... but... I thought more oil = more power. So more oil doesn't always = more power, sometimes less oil = more power... unless it's not enough oil than more oil = more power. See what I mean... I already knew that too much oil, or too little oil, was detrimental to performance... so I didn't learn sour owl squat.
Along that line... there ain't no friggin' way anyone can claim a 32:1 (or whatever) mix of any particular oil is "best" for every engine, every saw, in all conditions... it might be perfect for yours, it might be horrible in mine. Too many variables, it depends, there ain't no absolutes... there ain't no magic...
Personally I don't care to use any two-stroke oil with directions on the label for multiple mix ratios... in my experience a jack of all trades is a master of none.
I mean, c'mon, talk about a CYA lack of commitment... if you can't commit and stand behind your product, than I ain't gonna' lay out my cash for it (shrug)
But that's just me... I ain't suggesting anyone should do as I do.
The truth is, after reading all of this, I've concluded the smartest thing I can do is to just continue doing what I've been doing... that is pouring the same 50:1 (dino) mix in all the two-stroke OPE, even the old 1970s vintage stuff that originally ran on 16:1. As the mix oil has evolved over the years from 16:1, to 24:1, to 32;1, to 40:1, and now 50:1, I've experienced fewer and fewer starting/running problems, never foul a plug anymore, and rarely have to adjust carbs... even in the really old stuff (oh... and I've never seized one neither). That's worth a whole lot more to me than any ½% increase in power, or a ½% decrease in fuel consumption, or whatever else the claims are... I just want 'em to start and run when I need 'em... there was a day when ya' couldn't count on that.
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