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661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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So this thread is back?
Some people have no smarts at all...
If'n ya' put Brush Ape and I in a cage, it wouldn't be a question of which one of us came out alive... it would be a question of how long our captors could remain alive after we figured out how to escape. Only a complete utter fool would give the two of us a common cause to work towards.
But, hey... what can you expect from a guy who talks about, even brags about, the people he has on his ignore list??
I mean, c'mon... seriously??
It's a friggin' ignore list‼Ya' know?? Ignore... as in... refuse to acknowledge or to totally disregard.
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Unfortunately (b'cause I like a good laugh), I've never watched MTV so I'm unable to laugh along with you guys on this one... I have no mental picture to reference.
I tried Google for celebrity death match... but somethin' evidently gets lost in transcription/description.
Must be one of those "ya'-had-to-be-there" things... huh??
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Deets066
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I bet that's the same bikini she had when she was 8
.404
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This is ridiculous. You should delete this whole thread except for the pictures of young women in compromising positions wearing less than a handkerchief....
redbull660
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I agree, on the condition that they are lubed up with various oils. Only then could we actually determine which oil was best!
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Come on 4k!!!!
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redbull660
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bought some Lucas semi syn the other day. Decided to do a little mini test to get a feel on how to proceed with future tests. Please read whole post before commenting.
New 24" .404 RS chains for each. Reset performed for each.
Time wise they are all pretty close with a slight advantage to h1r and lucas 36:1. I let the saws run for a while on video to see if you guys could discern anything from the noise
H1R 45:1
Lucas 32:1 To me it didn't feel as responsive or crisp as the h1r. Kinda boggy actually.
Lucas 36:1 more responsive can crisp than the 32:1 lucas...actually pretty nice. But not quite as nice as h1r. So I was going to try 40:1 lucas....
Figured if 36:1 was nicer than 32:1 lucas, then I'd try 40:1 lucas... Until I took the muffler off. The film of oil on the piston blows at least compared to H1R.
To confirm the oil film - I went back to cutting. Burned up 4 tanks of 32:1 lucas. Still not as responsive or crisp as 36:1 lucas and 45:1 h1r. Pulled muffler - the film on piston is not impressive at all. Even at the richer ratio. Doesn't feel like slimy oil. Almost like a dry lube film....smooth sorta wet but not oily. I'm sure you could adjust for this if it wasn't an mtronic. And thinking back the film of Stihl Ultra was more impressive than the Lucas.
Given the times I was kinda hopeful about the lucas until I saw the film on the piston. I even put the muffler back on and let the saw idle for a while, then checked film again. Same thing.
This is not to say H1R is a winner in all of this either. They weren't that much faster than Lucas. Considering it's a racing oil. Although the gas was different with the H1R than the Lucas. H1R gas is left over from the Iowa GTG purchased in IA. The lucas was purchased yesterday 92 oct. But still I doubt that would make that big of a difference.
For me H1R is still on the table given the film strength I've observed so far... we'll see if others are better. But I'd like to see faster times then others!
Lucas is off though.
New 24" .404 RS chains for each. Reset performed for each.
Time wise they are all pretty close with a slight advantage to h1r and lucas 36:1. I let the saws run for a while on video to see if you guys could discern anything from the noise
H1R 45:1
Lucas 32:1 To me it didn't feel as responsive or crisp as the h1r. Kinda boggy actually.
Lucas 36:1 more responsive can crisp than the 32:1 lucas...actually pretty nice. But not quite as nice as h1r. So I was going to try 40:1 lucas....
Figured if 36:1 was nicer than 32:1 lucas, then I'd try 40:1 lucas... Until I took the muffler off. The film of oil on the piston blows at least compared to H1R.
To confirm the oil film - I went back to cutting. Burned up 4 tanks of 32:1 lucas. Still not as responsive or crisp as 36:1 lucas and 45:1 h1r. Pulled muffler - the film on piston is not impressive at all. Even at the richer ratio. Doesn't feel like slimy oil. Almost like a dry lube film....smooth sorta wet but not oily. I'm sure you could adjust for this if it wasn't an mtronic. And thinking back the film of Stihl Ultra was more impressive than the Lucas.
Given the times I was kinda hopeful about the lucas until I saw the film on the piston. I even put the muffler back on and let the saw idle for a while, then checked film again. Same thing.
This is not to say H1R is a winner in all of this either. They weren't that much faster than Lucas. Considering it's a racing oil. Although the gas was different with the H1R than the Lucas. H1R gas is left over from the Iowa GTG purchased in IA. The lucas was purchased yesterday 92 oct. But still I doubt that would make that big of a difference.
For me H1R is still on the table given the film strength I've observed so far... we'll see if others are better. But I'd like to see faster times then others!
Lucas is off though.
That makes sense, with the much higher film strength of the ester oil.
KenJax Tree
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I believe the ester will leave a better coating, but i'm calling BS on looking like dry lube film. You're seeing what you want to see.
cuttinties
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I will add that his findings aren't even remotely close to what I've seen. I burn anywhere in the neighborhood of 1.5-2.5 gallons a day. I've got countless hours using Lucas and have used it in a very wide variety of saws. I don't feel that his description falls in line with mine. Mind you that what he feels is a good film may not be in fact what I call a good film. I've never had any problems with throttle response, and quite honestly can tell no real concernable difference between 32:1 and 40:1. Remember that more often than not 90% of the users here often have saws sitting for a period of time.
Redbull do an evaporation test. Then you'll see what I'm getting at.
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Everyone remember these tests are on " His " 661 with autotune ,and a reg carb saw may net different results
cuttinties
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I've used 32:1 in AT/m-tronic saws with zero affect on the throttle response.
OK... so we're on the road back over to western Iowa and I'm surfin' the web, lookin' for Celebrity Deathmatch.
I find a YouTube of Madonna vs Michael Jackson... guess I just ain't hip enough... couldn't see the comedy in it.
Now, my brother (the boss), is laughin' so hard there's tears in his eyes... so I ask him what's so funny, and it goes like this...
"Do you know who Michael Jackson was?"
-Yes
"Can you name one of his record albums?"
-No
"Can you name one of his songs?"
-No
"Did you ever watched him perform?"
-No
"Do you know who Madonna is?"
-I've heard the name
(he's laughing again) "That's why it ain't funny to ya'."
Like I said, guess I ain't hip enough... so the joke's on me this time (shrug)... I can handle it...
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