661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

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I'd like to run a ported saw for the test and Brad said he would port my saw, but has since backed out of the offer. Because the saw couldn't be dyno'd before and after. I don't see how that concerns the test but whatever...get what u pay for.
Seriously? I didn't back out of anything. I agreed to port your saw if you would have it dynoed before and after. You're not able to make that happen. I didn't back out of a thing. You've pretty much proven my assumptions with this little act.
 
Guess he didn't have the balls to tell me that. oh well. His loss, not mine.



I've done more videoed tests then anyone on here. My tests are apples to apples...and very methodical in approach. No one else on here uses brand new chains for each new test to ensure that things are fair. My times are consistent and repeatable.

and he is one to judge my testing? his cutting of some little half rotten log with mere 4 second times to determine what muffler worked the best on his ported 661....please.
Wow! And who's the one that's been begging for a free port job? Real class act you are. Andre is exactly right. And I have told you, just not so bluntly, lol. Trust me, I will never port a saw for you, not even for double the price.
 
the dyno thing totally your idea. chad and you are buddy buddy. yet u want me to set it up which was weird. then he backs out. so you back out.

but i don't see how the dyno test, has anything to do with getting the saw ported for the oil test. i mean **** you can send him a saw any time you want. the main thing was to get the saw ported for this oil test. that is what we all want to see is the oil test done with ported saw. why the dyno keeps that from happening is ...whatever.


and for your 2nd msg. I didn't beg you. it started out as your idea and from there it's been all over the map.
 
Do you really want to spell it out for you?

First of all, Chad and I have no more connection that you and he do. He's dynoed ONE saw for me.

Yes, I wanted YOU to set it up. That's what I asked of YOU. YOU have it dynoed, not me.

And BTW, Chad didn't back out of a thing either. When asked if he would do it, he kindly declined as he doesn't have the time to do it right now.

You're right, the dyno test has nothing to do with your oil test...exactly my point. I have no confidence in your cut times at all. The dyno runs were simply so that there would be something in this for me to give you a free port job. Have you no self respect?
 
Do you really want to spell it out for you?

First of all, Chad and I have no more connection that you and he do. He's dynoed ONE saw for me.

Yes, I wanted YOU to set it up. That's what I asked of YOU. YOU have it dynoed, not me.

And BTW, Chad didn't back out of a thing either. When asked if he would do it, he kindly declined as he doesn't have the time to do it right now.

You're right, the dyno test has nothing to do with your oil test...exactly my point. I have no confidence in your cut times at all. The dyno runs were simply so that there would be something in this for me to give you a free port job. Have you no self respect?

BTW, I've tried to help you along the way, both publically in your threads and in PM. What a childish little temper tantrum you've thrown here, all because you didn't get that free port job you've been begging for.

yup, ya got me nailed. and you have commended my testing many times in the past. Now it's a 180 to support your douchebag back out move.

I don't need to beg for a port job. I've been laying out TONS of money left and right testing stuff. as in thousands $$$$ Your just too cheap to contribute anything to this test. It's not the idea of the cost of the port job. It's you contributing your time towards this. ...since the ported saw tested was YOUR idea from the start. Wouldn't of cost you a dime.

Maybe what 8hrs of your time? By the time I'm done with this test I'll have at least 10x that. Your just cheap dude.
 
:blob2: not sure what that little guy is but think it represents the last couple of pages pretty well. The 323 prior to were pretty good from what I read. Thanks for the information.
 
So everybody gonna run Lucas? Sweet.



Got distracted but want to add this....

Theoretical phone call between OEM and blender.......

Blender -Ring, ring, hello?

OEM--Good mortning, I need a new oil to market what do you have?

Blender--We got it all. What is the product line the oil is intended for?

OEM--Air cooled 2 cycle equipment, blah, blah, blah

Blender--Yea, we do that, you want it to be your own exclusive product.

OEM--Ya, only ours, must be distinct.

Blender--Okay, we can do that. We got these bases and various additives tweak the known formulas a bit and you got your exclusive product. No problem.

OEM--Ya, guut send us some samples.

Blender--Sure thing, anything specific you want done to the product, you know make it your ultra product in anyway.

OEM--No, no just a good basic..........hmmm, wait a minute............, anyway you could make it smell like a burning credit card?

Blender--Yeah sure no problem, might leave a glossy hard residue on the top of the piston over time.

OEM--Eh, huh sure just as long as it smells like a burning credit card.

Blender--Okay, send the sample drums out tomorrow. Have a good day.

OEM--Ya dank you.
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This is how I think oil gets blended.
 
yup, ya got me nailed. and you have commended my testing many times in the past. Now it's a 180 to support your douchebag back out move.

I don't need to beg for a port job. I've been laying out TONS of money left and right testing stuff. as in thousands $$$$ Your just too cheap to contribute anything to this test. It's not the idea of the cost of the port job. It's you contributing your time towards this. ...since the ported saw tested was YOUR idea from the start. Wouldn't of cost you a dime.

Maybe what 8hrs of your time? By the time I'm done with this test I'll have at least 10x that. Your just cheap dude.
I really don't see the value in testing a ported saw.
Although not bullet proof, think just testing the saws on a dyno woukd be a much better approach the using a human operator. That's with the caveat that the dyno and operator are top notch.
 
I really don't see the value in testing a ported saw.
Although not bullet proof, think just testing the saws on a dyno woukd be a much better approach the using a human operator. That's with the caveat that the dyno and operator are top notch.
Like the ones Stihl has at Long Beach??
 
I am not sure what Stihl has at LB.
There are a bunch of vids online showing their test cells/ dynomometers running. All computer controlled and whatnot.... i would imagine they are super accurate for doing short and long term testing for wear and performance. Pretty high tech stuff. ( Note, I meant Virginia Beach, sorry bout that)
 

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