661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[Ron660]

I'd like to see this oil tested:

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/lbg-12932/overview/

And:

http://www.arlingtonpower.com/Kawasaki-2-6oz-2-Cycle-Fuel-Mix-p/120-999696-082.htm

Multi-Purpose 2-cycle oils: How is this possible?
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2714912&page=all

Liquid wax ester....that's a new one

 

[Ilmater]

Liquid wax ester....that's a new one

The liquid wax esters are esters synthesized from rapeseed acids and special alcohols.

They appear to have four advantages:

1. Aid in friction reduction,
2. have low-level anti-wear capabilities
3. aid in cleaning
4. are very stable in terms of resisting hydrolytic degradation.

^ That post is from MolaKule, a legit PH.D. Tribologist on bobistheoilguy.com
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3565527/2

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4510093.html
Synthetic liquid wax esters
United States Patent 4510093

Abstract:
A synthetic unsaturated wax ester prepared from unsaturated carboxylic acids of 18 to 22 carbon atoms and unsaturated fatty alcohols of 12 to 22 carbon atoms is proposed as a substitute for jojoba oil.

https://www.google.co.in/patents/US4152278
Wax esters of vegetable oil fatty acids useful as lubricants
US 4152278 A
ABSTRACT
Wax esters are prepared entirely from acids obtained from hydrogenated vegetable oils. Fatty alcohols, prepared by hydrogenolysis of the fatty acids, are esterified with the fatty acids to yield the wax esters. These esters have properties similar to those of sperm whale oil and are useful as lubricant compositions. The sulfurized wax esters are useful as extreme pressure lubricant additives.

 

[Ron660]

^ That post is from MolaKule, a legit PH.D. Tribologist on bobistheoilguy.com
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3565527/2

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4510093.html
Synthetic liquid wax esters
United States Patent 4510093

Abstract:
A synthetic unsaturated wax ester prepared from unsaturated carboxylic acids of 18 to 22 carbon atoms and unsaturated fatty alcohols of 12 to 22 carbon atoms is proposed as a substitute for jojoba oil.

https://www.google.co.in/patents/US4152278
Wax esters of vegetable oil fatty acids useful as lubricants
US 4152278 A
ABSTRACT
Wax esters are prepared entirely from acids obtained from hydrogenated vegetable oils. Fatty alcohols, prepared by hydrogenolysis of the fatty acids, are esterified with the fatty acids to yield the wax esters. These esters have properties similar to those of sperm whale oil and are useful as lubricant compositions. The sulfurized wax esters are useful as extreme pressure lubricant additives.

Language at the bottom of the label looks like it's approved for marine applications.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Language at the bottom of the label looks like it's approved for marine applications.

Its also dangerous to drink it and kids cannot play with it[emoji52]

 

[Ron660]

Its also dangerous to drink it and kids cannot play with it[emoji52]

I didn't see the JASO-FD certification.

 

[Ilmater]

I didn't see the JASO-FD certification.

They probably didn't want to spend the money to get it certified.

 

[Bwildered]

Don't hold your breath.. Hint, stating facts isn't libel...

Hahahaha have you read what you said, you could have found your true skill in life, a legal crash test dummy! Don't worry though, they will only come after you if you are of adult age & have lots of assets they can relieve you of.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

this week im burning motul 800 off road at 50:1 in my stuff i bet it will like it.

 

[porsche965]

Just how much does it cost to certify an oil?

 

[KG441c]

Just how much does it cost to certify an oil?

40,000 Yen

 

[porsche965]

Off the top of my head that's about $33,000. Cheap.

 

[KG441c]

http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...4/?temp_hash=7cc797b00b7b052406cc7353657d444c

 

[KG441c]

Off the top of my head that's about $33,000. Cheap.

Or $320 US?

 

[KG441c]

The download is the guideline standards a person wishing to certify their product has to meet and the procedure to follow for certifications. Ive seen very few oils that actually have the Jaso certification which is identified by a large square box with the certified rating inside the box. This crap companies put on the bottle that says meets or exceeds Jaso is their own doing. There is a Jaso list of oils on Jasos website and if the oil isnt on it the product hasnt passed certification or the persons formulating the product chose not to participate

 

[KG441c]

From my understanding if a product has true certification from JASO, the packaging will display as follows

 

[bwalker]

Technically, no, but in my opinion, knowing about Lubegard's reputation from some of their other products (i.e. Lubegard Red ATF protectant), and the chemistry behind their Liquid Wax Ester, I believe that their tc-w3 oil (which they say can be used in air cooled engines as well) would protect as well as dedicated air cooled oils.

http://www.lubegard.com/LXE.aspx

You shouldn't use boat oil in a chainsaw..

 

[bwalker]

Off the top of my head that's about $33,000. Cheap.

Alot of companies make claims...

 

[bwalker]

They probably didn't want to spend the money to get it certified.

Because it probably wouldn't pass given it appears to be a ashless boat oil.

 

[bwalker]

I certainly hope you get the opportunity to plead your case.
It could get interesting when they ( the oil co ) produce their testing evidence of running their particular oil in those particular manufacturers saws verses a blanket statement from a manufacturer who couldn't care less what you were being sued for, you would need really deep pockets to subpoena the saw manufacturers testing proof against that individual particular oil if they had any testing done which showed contrary results from the oil manufacturers results

Your living in fantasy land..pop another ensure and change your diaper.

 

[bwalker]

This is exactly the point I've been trying to make the entire time. Good to see someone with some long standing, established credibility shares the same view.

Its actually not..your advocating the use of boat oils. ANDY is smart enough to use the correct type oils. I think all of us have tried a variety of stuff.