661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[Bwildered]

Your making assumptions and false ones at that.

did you see the question mark at the end, it was a question based on your answers & responses to questions regarding oils, not an assumption.

 

[bwalker]

Ditto. I have been using Amsoil in my cars and trucks for several years with outstanding results. I have never seen such wide swings in opinions, love or hate. I can't help but wonder if the extreme negatives are based on failures with the 100:1 or 80:1 usage. If Amsoil threw out that verbage and stated something more sensible and still competitive like 50:1 would they have a much better reputation? I'm guessing they would. It would be interesting to hear porsche965's friend give his testimonial.

They actually do state something more sensible now.
If Saber is no cheaper than Dominator, I would probaly just go with the latter.

 

[KenJax Tree]

No rust protection in Dominator though? It says not to use it in boats. Not that a saw is exposed to much water.

 

[bwalker]

No rust protection in Dominator though? It says not to use it in boats. Not that a saw is exposed to much water.

That's because it's on aircooled type oil formulation wise and not suitable for use in boats.
Ester based oils also are not known to be great storage lubricants. Some are better than others in this regard.

 

[Bwildered]

The test in question are not industry accepted standards for testing two cycle oil. In fact when people started to bring this up the "tests" were removed.
The falex test measures EP properties, which isn't remotely relevant to a two cycle.

thats rubbish! the test is for lubricating properties of any oil for anti wear & EP properties, its covered on page 195 of the referenced book, read it for yourself.

 

[Bwildered]

No rust protection in Dominator though? It says not to use it in boats. Not that a saw is exposed to much water.

they are around here, we've had an average rainfall of 3.5m ( 137inches ) for the last ten years. LOL

 

[bwalker]

they are around here, we've had an average rainfall of 3.5m ( 137inches ) for the last ten years. LOL

I thought Aus was in a long term drought?

 

[bwalker]

thats rubbish! the test is for lubricating properties of any oil for anti wear & EP properties, its covered on page 195 of the referenced book, read it for yourself.

Of gear oils..

 

[Bwildered]

Of gear oils..

no! any oil, and the four ball test was actually designed to to test hydraulic oil, thats explained a couple of pages before hand of the page mentioned. gear oils just have better EP properties

 

[bwalker]

EP isn't relevant to two cycle engines and the falex tests are not industry accepted methods for testing two cycle oil.

 

[Bwildered]

I thought Aus was in a long term drought?

thats the hype the climate alarmists would want you to believe

 

[bwalker]

no! any oil, and the four ball test was actually designed to to test hydraulic oil, thats explained a couple of pages before hand of the page mentioned. gear oils just have better EP properties

Should have added greases too..

 

[bwalker]

thats the hype the climate alarmists would want you to believe

A few years ago I read a article on how the Murray - Darling basin was going dry. I assume your near this area?

 

[KenJax Tree]

137 inches of rain? We get that much snow[emoji3]

 

[bwalker]

137 inches of rain? We get that much snow[emoji3]

Double that number in snow for a normal year for us...

 

[KenJax Tree]

Double that number in snow for a normal year for us...

You're way farther north that i am, but thats good keep it all in the U.P.

 

[jmssaws]

I've ran dominator a good bit with no I'll effects.

 

[Bwildered]

EP isn't relevant to two cycle engines and the falex tests are not industry accepted methods for testing two cycle oil.

so far what you have come up with is details about the oils which in your opinion maybe irrelevant, but deceptive, no!

 

[Bwildered]

137 inches of rain? We get that much snow[emoji3]

well we would get 1781 inches of snow then. 1 inch of rain = 13 inches of snow
tanks

 

[bwalker]

so far what you have come up with is details about the oils which in your opinion maybe irrelevant, but deceptive, no!

Yes, it is. The Average guy doesn't know what the falex test is used for, so it's misleading and deceptive to use it to hawk oils.
And it's the same thing with listing standards in their marketing that they are not certified to with no qualifiers. Some one looks at it and actually thinks they are certified.