661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[blsnelling]

This is all I ever ran in my built Yamaha Banshee. I never once had a piston or lube issue in the 10 years or so I ran it.

http://www.maximausa.com/product/castor-927/

 

[Andyshine77]

This is all I ever ran in my built Yamaha Banshee. I never once had a piston or lube issue in the 10 years or so I ran it.

http://www.maximausa.com/product/castor-927/

People make too much out of a little buildup in the muffler can, or the piston crown. 927 is a well proven product, it's just not the best in the cold.

 

[blsnelling]

People make too much out of a little buildup in the muffler can, or the piston crown. 927 is a well proven product, it's just not the best in the cold.

Per the instructions on the bottle, I added isopropyl alcohol in cold weather.

 

[Andyshine77]

Per the instructions on the bottle, I added isopropyl alcohol in cold weather.

Exactly, just not worth it in saws. IMHO R50 is the closest thing to castor, without the associated drawbacks.

 

[blsnelling]

Exactly, just not worth it in saws. IMHO R50 is the closest thing to castor, without the associated drawbacks.

And there we are, full circle from several years ago, lol.

 

[bwalker]

That or klotz super techniplate.

Love the smell of ST ,but it's pretty limited in what it's good for. Chainsaws isn't one of the things I would use it for. same goes for 927.

 

[Andyshine77]

And there we are, full circle from several years ago, lol.

I simply gave other oil's a try. I really liked K2, and I'm liking HP2 even better! but may end up running R50 again just because of it's amazing film strength.

 

[bwalker]

People make too much out of a little buildup in the muffler can, or the piston crown. 927 is a well proven product, it's just not the best in the cold.

That build up long term causes problems that can increase wear. Especially so in a low stress application like a saw.

 

[Andyshine77]

Love the smell of ST ,but it's pretty limited in what it's good for. Chainsaws isn't one of the things I would use it for. same goes for 927.

That build up long term causes problems that can increase wear. Especially so in a low stress application like a saw.

I mostly agree, and castor oils can make you sick if you breath too much in.

 

[KG441c]

Bought HP2 today. Says directly on the bottle for maximum protection and performance mixed at 32:1. Are oils formulated to work better at certain ratios?

 

[KG441c]

Any test today RB?

 

[Andyshine77]

That build up long term causes problems that can increase wear. Especially so in a low stress application like a saw.

Bought HP2 today. Says directly on the bottle for maximum protection and performance mixed at 32:1. Are oils formulated to work better at certain ratios?

To an extent yes, but application comes into play as well. With that said 32:1 isn't as much oil as some think, 16:1 in some applications is still common.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

grandpa told me of the olden days when mix was 10:1 he said it was awful.

 

[Andyshine77]

grandpa told me of the olden days when mix was 10:1 he said it was awful.

I bet especially with SAE30 oil.

 

[bwalker]

To an extent yes, but application comes into play as well. With that said 32:1 isn't as much oil as some think, 16:1 in some applications is still common.

I have seen engines ran on 16:1 that were perfectly clean internally and ran with no smoke once warm. They were also engines that expiereance much more heat and load than a saw, not to mention the fact the make way more hp per cc.

 

[KenJax Tree]

So HP2 is winning here so far?

 

[Moparmyway]

I have seen engines ran on 16:1 that were perfectly clean internally and ran with no smoke once warm. They were also engines that expiereance much more heat and load than a saw, not to mention the fact the make way more hp per cc.

I am running 25:1 in my 90cc stumpers ............ no smoke there once warm either

 

[Moparmyway]

So HP2 is winning here so far?

My prediction is the R50 will come out on top .............. but waiting to see the results finalized.

I get sick on R50 if I mix it by itself anymore now .............. its smell isnt a problem if I cut it with 800 off road though

 

[KenJax Tree]

I thought Scamsoil Saber was being tested too....or did i miss it.

 

[Trx250r180]

Even if an oil is faster ,does that factor soot / carbon buildup on the piston and exhaust port for cleanliness ? I am not trying to sell dtp ,but it is the only one i have used that removed the crud left by other oils .