661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[KG441c]

They still workin on the barn Redbull?

 

[KG441c]

hoping tomorrow is the day! fingers crossed. Also I had to prep the wood. Can't use a skidder or anything to move things around. This thing is around 4'+ Just me so...


I'm also adding 361 into the mix with 20" bar 3/8 .063 RS. It's a mint saw and in perfect running condition so should be a good test. It is not muff modded or any other mods.

Sounds good man! Have fun!!

 

[porsche965]

I find it funny how the guy that is spending the most money and doing the testing that everyone calls worthless is attacked the most.

And yet I haven't seen one person that has commented on this thread or criticized Red Bull or each other to make any kind of video of their own.

 

[mdavlee]

I'm surprised there was that much difference in cut times with just the change in oil. I'll test a little bit myself when I get time some time this decade.

 

[porsche965]

I'm surprised there was that much difference in cut times with just the change in oil. I'll test a little bit myself when I get time some time this decade.

You have some great saws to try it on Mike. I plan to do the same but Mom broke her arm (she is 84) and I won't have time until next week since taking care of her is a handful. Real anxious to try. The Tree Service just brought some big Oak into the firewood landing.

 

[Marshy]

You cant proove my point wrong, yet you really want to, so you post up Toyota air/fuel data which has NOTHING to do with what my statement referred to

So you try to tell me that my correct statement might as well be wrong .....

So you the kind of guy that would add watermelons to apples and expect to have everyone eat Lasagna


Listen real good cause I am only gunna say it one more time for ya .............. as the load is increased you need more power to do the work. Simple;

Step down from your horse and stop acting like you've said something adroit. You keep saying you need more power to do more work and I've asked you how you intend to get more power out of the saw and you haven't answered clearly. I've asked you to elaborate and all I get is nothing... Any time you feel like coming down out of the clouds to explain I'll listen. As far as I'm concerned there's not a lot of power left on the table once its tuned properly so where's the power coming from?

Mean while I've stated facts about air/fuel ratios and how too rich will lose power/torque. Although the graph I posted was in part emissions from Toyota its has valid information about best torque relative to air/fuel ratio. I'll repeat it incase you didn't catch it the first time. When adjusting your air to fuel ratio further rich, there is point of diminishing return where more fuel will not produce more power. Therefore your blanket statement and inference to add more fuel and get more power is not correct IMO and is misleading. Instead of being so defensive and ambiguous try reading, comprehending and validating some information and you might learn something new. There's a whole science behind internal combustion, specifically the science of air ad fuel is called Stoichiometry.

 

[Gologit]

I just wanted to add that Golickit would give his father a blow job to do his mother out of a piece of tale. Lol

Wow. I thought I was reading another oil thread 'til I found this.

John, you can insult me personally all you want. I'll just ignore you like I always have.

But insulting family members crosses the line. That's not allowed and you've been here long enough to know that.

 

[Marshy]

I find it funny how the guy that is spending the most money and doing the testing that everyone calls worthless is attacked the most.

And yet I haven't seen one person that has commented on this thread or criticized Red Bull or each other to make any kind of video of their own.

I think the real reason is because there is a number of people that know that one or two cuts per sample (given mix ratio) is not enough to be conclusive. I'm not attacking him or anyone else but I don't believe the test he's conducted is thorough enough or has enough data points to be conclusive. Especially seeing some of the timed cuts where the saw hung-up in the cut. JMO

 

[Metals406]

Ya Brad I actually figured out to tune off 4 stroke in the wood by a video u posted where it cut clean and when u decrease pressure a tad it sounded like a nanny goat

Proper tuning. . .

 

[.404]

Gee mention oil mixture and engage full retard mode in just 90 short pages? Priceless.

 

[bwalker]

redbull660 said: ↑
The flash point has more to do with how quickly the oil is consumed by the combustion process and how it affects the octane rating of the fuel.




Don't know why you have to be such a jerk about it...

anyway -

• The flash point of a chemical is the lowest temperature where enough fluid can evaporate to form a combustible concentration of gas.

The flash point is an indication of how easy a chemical may burn. Materials with higher flash points are less flammable or hazardous than chemicals with lower flash points.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flash-point-fuels-d_937.html

oil is a chemical.
oil is in that list.
oil burns.
oil is consumed by the combustion process. The flash point does have an indication of how quickly that happens .


would appreciate it, if in the future you would at least research what your saying before you say it.

Your dealing with a mixture with different components that have different boiling points...The fact you can't understand the significance of this tidbit is telling.

 

[blsnelling]

bwalker, I've supported you in some of your points. However, I have to ask, why do you have to resort to personal attacks and condescending remarks to make your points?

 

[bwalker]

Because

bwalker, I've supported you in some of your points. However, I have to ask, why do you have to resort to personal attacks and condescending remarks to make your points?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink..

 

[Metals406]

Wouldn't the combination of two components, with different flash points, make a new component with its own flash point?

Brad, you smell like celery and old linen.

(Had to squeeze my insult in there, seemed the direction the thread was taking.)

 

[bwalker]

Wouldn't the combination of two components, with different flash points, make a new component with its own flash point?

Brad, you smell like celery and old linen.

(Had to squeeze my insult in there, seemed the direction the thread was taking.)

No. Gasoline for instance is made with a variety of components yet it's lowest boiling point component is what will determine it's flashpoint.

 

[mdavlee]

Marshy the fuel can be too rich and lose power. Long cuts with long bars need more fuel than cutting 8x8". You can tune a 372 to 15.5k for cutting cookies and it is fine. Try that with a 32" bar and 30" of wood and it's toast. The hotter they get the leaner they get. I'm pretty sure that's the point Moparmyway is trying to make.

 

[Metals406]

Jolly good show!

 

[Freehand]

Buncha low count booger kneaders…...

 

[Gypo Logger]

Wow. I thought I was reading another oil thread 'til I found this.

John, you can insult me personally all you want. I'll just ignore you like I always have.

But insulting family members crosses the line. That's not allowed and you've been here long enough to know that.

Ya, but remember when you said my grandmother wore army boots??? I am still holding a grudge about that!

 

[Metals406]

Buncha low count booger kneaders…...

How else are we supposed to get our booger loaves to rise??

Duh