Any actual problems with Amsoil

[16gauge]

Bugnutz and Bugnots

Where can I get some Bugnutz and Bugnots looks like something to sell on e-bay..

I think the Bug has been in contact with Fish's engineers. This can't lead to anything good.

 

[Bad E]

Have you ever heard of something called the placebo effect?

Yes I have. But heat used to roll up off the engine, now after 40 minutes of hard use I can lay my hands on the engine without burning them.Friction= heat.And as far as the placebo effect I did not put a sugar pill in the crankcase, I put synthetic oil in it.

 

[Bad E]

Isn't your Yamaha water cooled?

Yes of course.Whats your point.

 

[Fish]

I used to love synthetic oil mix, but after I started getting piston damage
from using it, I promptly stopped.......

 

[Bad E]

Check it if your engine is running cooler. If Amsoil made your engine run cooler your thermostat would close up some and keep the engine temp the same. If it's not then your thermostat must be acting up.

Or maybe the Amsoil is lubing the thermostat too. Good stuff.

It does not have a heater???Therefore I do not believe it has or needs a thermostat except a sensor to turn on the cooling fan.You are thinking automotive in your desire to fuel your dislike of Amsoil.
As I stated on my 2 stroke engines I will not use Amsoil. 100: 1 is a joke.

 

[chowdozer]

What is this talk of a heater?

But I like Amspoil. Since I switch to Amspoil I'm getting 20,000 miles out of my tires before I need to change air. I believe it's because my tires are running cooler.

He's saying his watercooled quad does not have a thermostat. It regulates temperture with a sensored radiator mounted fan.

The Amspoil in your head is beyond it's service life. Time for a change.

 

[Bad E]

What is this talk of a heater?

But I like Amspoil. Since I switch to Amspoil I'm getting 20,000 miles out of my tires before I need to change air. I believe it's because my tires are running cooler.

You may be a chainsaw expert but I see your other mechanical knowledge is limited while your hatred of Amsoil is unlimited.As is your sense of humor apparantly.

 

[Bad E]

He's saying his watercooled quad does not have a thermostat. It regulates temperture with a sensored radiator mounted fan.

The Amspoil in your head is beyond it's service life. Time for a change.

Exactly. It does not need a thermostat to hold in the hot water to a certain temperature. It needs only a sensor to prevent overheating. No thermostat in my Rhino. Plenty of firewood chips in the bed however.

 

[chowdozer]

Are you suggesting the fan sensor is not a thermostat? It fits the definition.

Sure does. Now explain how Amsoil lubed the sensor!

 

[chowdozer]

Are you suggesting the fan sensor is not a thermostat? It fits the definition.

I see. You're thinking the engine is running cooler because the fans are coming on sooner? All because he changed brands of oil? Isn't that a bit of a stretch?

Change the oil in your gourd Treeco.

 

[Bad E]

Are you suggesting the fan sensor is not a thermostat? It fits the definition.

Your original premise is the engine temperature could not possibly be cooler with Amsoil oil in my Rhino because the "thermostat"would hold the coolant back from the radiator until it reached a certain temperature.
I am telling you my Rhino has no thermostat ...the coolant is always circulating through the radiator. The "sensor" is not a thermostat but only turns on the radiator fan to stop the coolant from exceeding temperatures.
Every manufactuer who races any four stroke motor is most likely currently using synthetic oil in thier very expensive motors. They do this because they lubricate engine parts better which leads to the following benefits. More power, longer engine life. Friction=heat. Friction robs power, wears engine parts and increases heat.
My Rhino "DOES" run cooler with the Amsoil synthetic oil I put in it. Noticeably cooler!Thats a "fact" you can neither disprove or deny.At least with anything resembling intelligence. End of discussion!

 

[Bad E]

Bad E,

A thermostat does not have to hold water back to be a thermostat. The sensor that turns your fan on is a thermostat.

I used Amsoil in my chevy pickup and it ran so cool it froze up.

Sigh:bang:

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I have a 04 Yamaha Rhino 660 cc four stroke. I put Amsoil 4 stroke in it after breakin and the engine runs far quieter and cooler than it ever did before the oil change.

What kind of oil did you change out of the toy?

 

[Bad E]

What kind of oil did you change out of the toy?

I'm sure the factory had Yamalube in it.Dino oil.

I'm not selling or pushing Amsoil(I am surprised by the hatred for it here however)any good quality synthetic oil may have yielded the same results.I use Castrol 5w-40 full synthetic in my German car.I believe in synthetic oil. As I stated earlier I run B&S full synthetic in my chainsaw at 50:1.The reason I choose not to run Amsoil 2 stroke is thier 100:1 mix ratio. Not in my machines!
I do believe 2 stroke synthetic oil to be superior to petroleum based oil however. That is undeniable.

 

[bwalker]

Yes I have. But heat used to roll up off the engine, now after 40 minutes of hard use I can lay my hands on the engine without burning them.Friction= heat.And as far as the placebo effect I did not put a sugar pill in the crankcase, I put synthetic oil in it.

I hate to brake it to you, but synthetics oil dont reduce friction to a large degree.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

I hate to brake it to you, but synthetics oil dont reduce friction to a large degree.

Ben, you know not of what you are speaking. What else could explain $16,000 a year in fuel savings???

https://www.amsoil.com/testimonials/8pt2_morempg.aspx?zo=501359

 

[bwalker]

Mike, reducing viscosities and the higher viscosity indexof synthetics can indeed net some fuel economy increases. The friction thing is BS though.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

I hate to brake it to you, but synthetics oil dont reduce friction to a large degree.

Too much ignorance of basic mechanics here to ever begin to dispel it all....



No, I don't sell, or use, Amsoil.

 

[Fish]

Just want to step in here and let the newer members here, that a storm is
brewing here, so sit back, dig out your high school physics books, send the
wife out for more beer and enjoy.
Hop in if you dare.

But remember, if you don't want to get dog poop on your boots, don't go out in the back yard where the dogs are.

 

[Bad E]

Mike, reducing viscosities and the higher viscosity indexof synthetics can indeed net some fuel economy increases. The friction thing is BS though.

Friction thing is BS?Some enlightening reading for you.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/15378/

http://www.engineeringtalk.com/news/klu/klu109.html

The following application-related advantages result from the improved properties of synthetic lubricating oils as compared to mineral oils: improved efficiency due to reduced tooth-related friction losses; lower gearing losses due to reduced friction, requiring less energy; oil change intervals three to five times longer than mineral oils operating at the same temperature; and reduced operating temperatures under full load, increasing component life; cooling systems may not be required.

http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/synth_oil.txt

"Film strength" refers to the amount of pressure required to force out a
film of oil from between two pieces of flat metal. The higher the film
strength, the more protection is provided to such parts as piston rings,
timing chain, cams, lifters, and rocker arms...wherever the lubricant is
not under oil-system pressure. Synthetics routinely exhibit a nominal
film strength of well over 3,000 psi, while petroleum oils average
somewhat less than 500 psi. The result is more lubricant protection
between moving parts with synthetics.


You may want to rethink your statement in light of these and numerous other studies done by independant testers.