smokinj
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Normally when some one steals something its because its eaiser than working, so most will not steal wood unless its a weekend get together and they just need campfire wood.
Appropriate steps to detur firewood thieves
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This approach may not work well because the conversation will start with "YOU did this and YOU did that" and can be confrontational. The person being accused will automatically become defensive.
Healing takes place when ownership is taken for your own actions in the matter. The conversaion will go alot better when it starts as "I am wrong for ..." "I am sorry for" "I should have brought this up earlier" "I was wrong to let you think think that I would not mind because I do" "I forgive you" "Can we move past this"
cedarman
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my buddy who is a carpenter is helping me insulate my garage. I insulate the lower end of the wall, he gets the high stuff (im terified of heights) i would never ask someone to help me without me being there to aide. wall is 15 ft high on gable ends.
now i by the beer, lunch, supply the tools and he knows hes welcome to anything I own. all he does is show up.
but you make a good point. if i see a freeloader coming, or someone i dont associate with on a daily/weekly basis, I usually find an excuse as to why i cant help them.
Just last wk. ago I had friend stop by and use my welder for free. two days later he shows up with a gallon of gramaxone (highly concentrated weed killer)
last weekend I helped a buddy load and haul some brush out of his yard w/ my saw, truck and trailer. All I charged him was a fresh bacon cheeseburger and small cheese fry from our local carryout.
its good to have friends that you can give and return favors for.
ford- yes you were being used
now i by the beer, lunch, supply the tools and he knows hes welcome to anything I own. all he does is show up.
but you make a good point. if i see a freeloader coming, or someone i dont associate with on a daily/weekly basis, I usually find an excuse as to why i cant help them.
Just last wk. ago I had friend stop by and use my welder for free. two days later he shows up with a gallon of gramaxone (highly concentrated weed killer)
last weekend I helped a buddy load and haul some brush out of his yard w/ my saw, truck and trailer. All I charged him was a fresh bacon cheeseburger and small cheese fry from our local carryout.
its good to have friends that you can give and return favors for.
ford- yes you were being used
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cedarman
ArboristSite Operative
that would be all I would say. no need to be apologitic.
id build a fence too. the fence would solve most problems. build a solid fence so you cant see them, and they cant see u
hey ford, is the alley you got a right of way? if its the only right of passage to access your yard then you should have a right to use it
thomasjf
ArboristSite Operative
3ford, it appears to me that you extended your hand in friendship as many a good neighbor does. Unfortunately, the guy that lives beside you repaid you by being a user and worse yet, stealing from you when you were gone. For Petes sake, a decent neighbor will look out for your property when you are gone, not steal it. If it were me, the fence would be going up, he's sure not the kind of person I'd want in my life. Not all people will be good neighbors, but I have found most are. I have found the quicker I give the bad ones the boot the better it is.
CrappieKeith
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ok ,but you forgot the peace of mind you achieved....had you not gone fishing you might have had to go see a shrink at 250$ an hour....I'm thinking your money ahead.
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as i said--hard line tactics are the only thing some understand!!!! your doing it right!!! carry on--
good post--some never learn!!!!!!!!!!!
SpiralAcacia
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banshee67
Poulan Wild Thang
wow, honestly , at the point whhere he put up the chain and private property sign, that would have been enough for me.
fence him off, lock your #### up and be done with it, life is too short to make amends with idiots.
yea so you might have some awkward points in the future, yoou might even make up when he comes around and apologizes for being a scumbag, but in the meantime, i wouldnt even waste a second of my life trying to burry the hatchet with him, fence him off, cut him off, and get on with it. the guy sounds like a nutcase.
fence him off, lock your #### up and be done with it, life is too short to make amends with idiots.
yea so you might have some awkward points in the future, yoou might even make up when he comes around and apologizes for being a scumbag, but in the meantime, i wouldnt even waste a second of my life trying to burry the hatchet with him, fence him off, cut him off, and get on with it. the guy sounds like a nutcase.
The wife is the nutcase pulling his strings... she's a real piece of work- she has admitted that the firewood bundles at cub foods are always 2 for the price of one, for her anyway. Pulls the same stunt at the walmart self check out. Just one more reason to ignore these pukes.
svon89
ArboristSite Operative
Wow, I have read through this, and I can honestly say the people you are dealing with are not worth your time. I came to that conclusion when they couldn't clean up the property before the wedding.
If it were me, I would have taken the skid steer and removed the joint water feature in about 2 minutes, the face cord of wood would have been pushed off the access, which by all definition sounds like a right of way. A fence will solve some, but sounds like you are better off staying away from those people. A thief is a thief, some people justify stealing from stores because they can "afford" a loss, that mindset just spells trouble.
A few weeks ago we had some serious flooding and the water was coming up enough that I was pumping from my house into the side yard. The neighbor came over and told me that the water that I was pumping was causing the water to rise in her back yard. I politely escorted her to her property and told her to batten down the hatches because I was going to keep pumping to keep the water out of my basement. Didn't hear any more from her.
Get the survey and put up a nice fence. Also change the bulbs in the motion light to high intensity lights. At least make it worth it....
If it were me, I would have taken the skid steer and removed the joint water feature in about 2 minutes, the face cord of wood would have been pushed off the access, which by all definition sounds like a right of way. A fence will solve some, but sounds like you are better off staying away from those people. A thief is a thief, some people justify stealing from stores because they can "afford" a loss, that mindset just spells trouble.
A few weeks ago we had some serious flooding and the water was coming up enough that I was pumping from my house into the side yard. The neighbor came over and told me that the water that I was pumping was causing the water to rise in her back yard. I politely escorted her to her property and told her to batten down the hatches because I was going to keep pumping to keep the water out of my basement. Didn't hear any more from her.
Get the survey and put up a nice fence. Also change the bulbs in the motion light to high intensity lights. At least make it worth it....
Yea, the douch told me to get my property (wood) off his newly claimed land, it was off with in 24 hrs... I can also see that applying to all my equipment that runs the pond... right down to the patio pavers that their new $500 table and chair set are currently sitting on.
If the chain and private property sign don't come down quick, my new truck driving path to the back yard is right along the property line the pond is located on. bye-bye pond, hello ruts in the grass. (the ruts on my side of the property line of course, but they're the ones that will get to look at it).
If the chain and private property sign don't come down quick, my new truck driving path to the back yard is right along the property line the pond is located on. bye-bye pond, hello ruts in the grass. (the ruts on my side of the property line of course, but they're the ones that will get to look at it).
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Hmmm, this isn't sounding good. I'd talk to an attorney friend before escalating the situation. The profession sometimes deserves its bad rep, but they have their place and can keep money in your pocket and your body out of jail.
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1foxracing
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I think your doing the right thing for sure. I would light up the back yard like a pro football stadium at his next get together. I think you said he likes to smoke grass as well. do they have kids? At his next fire night call the police for the illegal drug activity going on. You know they are getting high while having those fires out back.
isaaccarlson
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sounds like they need some help....cleaning up their act. Talk to your local authorities and make sure that land is yours and BUILD FENCE. Make sure it is tall. Good luck.
City responds to Right of way question
City called and said as of now the alley in question is still a right of way and can not be blocked off. They did however say it may have been "vacated" years ago but so far they really can't find a record of it. So it comes down to if the A**hat neighbors want to block it off they have to prove that it was vacated.
I like the alley access but if it was vacated that means I actually would own more property and would have the right to completely fence off the bad neighbors.
City called and said as of now the alley in question is still a right of way and can not be blocked off. They did however say it may have been "vacated" years ago but so far they really can't find a record of it. So it comes down to if the A**hat neighbors want to block it off they have to prove that it was vacated.
I like the alley access but if it was vacated that means I actually would own more property and would have the right to completely fence off the bad neighbors.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
I think your on the right track, I wouldn't waste my time on a person who spits basically in your face after all you have done for them. I'd be damned if there was a pond anymore, at least on my side of the line it would be filled and all my property/ pavers/ pump etc removed. His table and chairs would not be on my property. If finances allowed a eight foot fence would be going up and the lights would be on timers. I dang sure would have a survey done.
It sounds like they are scumbags all the way around, condoning stealing and drug use. If he jacked around with me much more, I'd have the guy arrested for stealing the wood. I, like you try to help others out as much as possible and often ask or expect anything out of it. I just expect if I ever need a little help doing someting that the favor be returned if possible. I dang sure don't expect people to steal from me and then act like it is my fault. Go buy some three hundred watters and put them on timers. There is a time to stand up.
It sounds like they are scumbags all the way around, condoning stealing and drug use. If he jacked around with me much more, I'd have the guy arrested for stealing the wood. I, like you try to help others out as much as possible and often ask or expect anything out of it. I just expect if I ever need a little help doing someting that the favor be returned if possible. I dang sure don't expect people to steal from me and then act like it is my fault. Go buy some three hundred watters and put them on timers. There is a time to stand up.
x's 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! some scum wont change--
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