All it proved was his engine wasn't running with the proper air fuel ratio. Nothing else.
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I believe SAE actually tests at an even higher temperature to check volatility and oil thickening. The point of the test is to see how much oil is lost to evaporation and how much the viscosity increases. So Todd's test does exactly that. It might not match the SAE tests exactly but it will give the same ranking among oils. Ergo, it is a valid test.
Well, once again you are wrong on all counts. When I have some slack time I will refute them.
But for starters. Amsoil Saber is certainly not JASO FD certified. And it's high likely it would not pass the certification tests. I'll go more into that too.
Infrared guns are highly inaccurate. Even the high end Fluke made ones.
Exactly, yet you have a guy that's lucky if he can change a spark plug arguing with you. Because he is an engineer...allegedly.
You cannot refute any of them. It is you who are wrong on all counts. Prove I am not an engineer, for example. If this site would not ban me for doing so, I would bet a substantial sum of money on it, as it is quite easy to prove.
Its pretty easy to refute Amsoil Saber is not certified as Jaso maintains a list of certified oils. So it is you who is full of it once again.
As for if you are an engineer or not. I honestly don't care. It's just you seem to make stupid mistakes and jump to conclusions which good engineers typically don't do. If I was a published engineer I would probably be proud of that and would have no problem citing said publications.
There is an industry test for volatility called the NOACK Volatility Test. Most reputable companies give you the numbers for this test in their product data sheets.
Given this why would PF do some half azzed test in his garage when the numbers are listed in the product data sheets using industry standard test methods? I'll tell you why. Because the retards that surf YoubTube lap this garbage up and that makes PF money.
I said Amsoil Saber met the JASO FD standards. They did not use an outside agency, so they may not be listed. I have no problem citing my papers on a reputable site. In fact, most of them are listed on my website. But I don't know you or others on this forum. You come across as arrogant and belligerent, so I do not trust you to behave in a sane manner. You also do not have a strong technical grasp of such things as fluid flow, film strength, analog testing, when statistical data are needed or basic thermodynamics, so nothing I say will dissuade you from your errors. But if you insist on seeing my publications, below is a partial list with name and publisher removed.
“Design and Scale-up of Agitators for Gas Dispersion in Fermentors”,
“Improved Starch Reactor Design
“Computational Fluid Mixing for Corn Wet Milling Applications”,
“Mixing in Industrial Fermenters
“A Comparative Study of Alternative Gas Dispersion Impellers
“ Proper Impeller Systems Insure Mixing Performance
“Enhancement of Fermentation with Effective Impeller Systems
“Optimize Power Consumption in Aerobic Fermenters
“Impeller Selection for Agitated Aerobic Fermenters
“Team Up with a Consultant for Equipment Selection
“The G-Value for Agitator Design: Time to Retire It
“Selecting Agitator Seals for Bioprocessing Applications”,
“Piloting Bioreactors for Agitation Scale-Up
“Agitation Challenges in Cellulosic Ethanol Production”,
“Sourcing Equipment in Developing Countries while Minimizing Risk
“Determine the Optimum Number of Process Trains
“Agitation of Fibrous Materials”,
“Reduce Risk When Sourcing Abroad
“Bioreactor Design for Chemical Engineers
“Determining Torque Split for Multiple Impellers in Slurry Mixing
“Cut Agitator Power Costs
“Why Conduct Pilot Studies for Agitated Gas-Liquid Mass Transfer -3
“Designing Multistage Agitated Reactors
“Pumps vs. agitators for tank mixing, classic case of CAPEX vs OPEX: white paper”,
“Computing Dissolved Oxygen Profiles in Aerobic Fermenters
“Large Scale Microbial Production of Advanced Biofuels: How big can we go?”,
“Optimizing Aerobic Fermenter Operation
“Impeller Selection for Lignocellulosic Hydrolysis Reactors
“Hydrofoil Impellers vs. Pitched Blade Turbines in Lignocellulosic Slurries”,
“Advanced Fermentation Agitation with Methanotrophs and Other Organisms”,
“Back to Basics”,
“Optimize Heat Transfer of Viscous Fluids in Agitated Vessels
“Equipment needs to study mixing of fibrous materials”,
“Equipment Requirements to Study Agitation for Gas-Liquid Fermentation”,
“Consider Hydrofoil Impellers for Laminar-Flow Mixing
“Biomass Conversion Agitation”,
“Optimize Aspect Ratio in Industrial Fermenters
Book, “Agitator design for gas-liquid fermenters and bioreactors”,
Book, “Agitator Design Technology for Biofuels and Renewable Chemicals”,
“How to Re-Suspend Settled Solids in an Agitated Tank”,
“Consider Hydrofoil Impellers for Laminar-Flow Mixing
“Biomass Conversion Agitation”, G. Benz, Biofuels Digest, March 9, 2019
“Heat Transfer in Mechanically Agitated Tanks”,
“Advancing Distillers Grains: Two Pathways to Dewatering”
Todd's test is not far off from the NOACK test. That test is at 482F; Todd's is at 450F.While the results won't be exactly the same, the ranking will be.
Getting on the list does not require the use of an "outside agency". All you have to do is pay 40000 yen and fill out the forms correctly.
Reading your posts here I get the impression that the second law of thermodynamics is alien to you, and you certainly haven't read the information on efficiency that I've linked in this thread. I end the matter with quotes from Carnot:
The production of motive power is then due in steam engines not to an actual consumption of caloric, but to its transportation from a warm body to a cold body.
The motive power of heat is independent of the agents employed to realize it; its quantity is fixed solely by the temperatures of the bodies between which is effected, finally, the transfer of caloric.
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I came to find the best 2 stroke oil.Stayed for the Jerry Springer.
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I am sure there are a few oils that are not on the list but meet the standards. I am not the only one that thinks so: https://autosolutionlab.com/jaso-fd-2-stroke-oil-list/ I trust Amsoil when they say they meet FD standards, mainly because of my more than 2 million miles of use of their products in multiple cars and tractors.
Well, what I can say is that I had 3 courses on thermodynamics: Basic Engineering Thermodynamics, Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics and Graduate Level Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics. I got a grade of 4 out of 4 on all of them., That does not make me an expert, but I do understand the 2nd law. It appears you do not. The quote from Carnot actually affirms what I have been saying, though his term "caloric" is archaic. He affirms the idea that a temperature change going from a warm body to a colder body is what creates the motive power. The Carnot cycle, by the way, is not a perfect analogy tto a gasoline engine. But what is relevant is that you cannot take energy out of a system and transfer it to some other use without altering its temperature or pressure or both. In an expanding gas system doing work, the gas temperature will always decrease.
So you still think that the efficiency of an internal combustion engine increases as its temperature decreases at the same ambient temperature?
Sigh. I am saying that the efficiency increases as the exhaust gas temperature decreases. That has nothing to do with the temperature of the physical engine. I guess I will try to explain it to you one more time. If the exhaust gas temperature were the same as the combustion temperature in the cylinder, there could be no net work done. If there could be, it would be a perpetual motion machine, as somehow the engine could produce power without taking energy out of the combustion gasses.
You didn't really expect an answer to that question, did you? All you will get from this kind of forum is opinions. But I do agree with bwalker on one concept: just buy an FD oil and go with it.
