Perry pioneer
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Here's a C-51 for ya saw seems to have been used little carb rebuild and new fuel lines 2 pulls with the choke it pops turn off choke pull one more time comes to life.
Homelite Chainsaws
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Sty57
Tree Freak
That looks like a nice little Merc behind it.
Looks like about a 48?
Perry pioneer
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Hey this is a home lite...yeah good eye its a 48 ke-4 7 1/2 HP mercury..
lesorubcheek
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Well, the combination of 3 C-clamps, a pair of Channellocks, and a small screwdriver got the clutch springs on. Most I can roll right on but not these.
After reading this I thought it sounded nuts that the springs could be so tight on these. Haven't done a 2000 or 2100 in a while... but did a 925 6 shoe just a few weeks ago. Springs rolled on fairly easily. A Super 2100 coudn't be much harder (I thought)..... So... I dug out some 2100 stuff, and tried to assemble a 7/8" clutch setup with new springs. Couldn't roll it on to save my life
. After fooling with it a dozen times or so, I punted. Now I understand why you needed the clamps to work it on. Thinking back, I don't think I've tried assembling a 7/8" with new springs before. Apologies for doubting you in the first place.Dan
Perry pioneer
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Yes those springs are tough I put a six clutch on that c-51, anyone ever put an eight pin on one of these seems to have enough torque for it?
sawnami
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After reading this I thought it sounded nuts that the springs could be so tight on these. Haven't done a 2000 or 2100 in a while... but did a 925 6 shoe just a few weeks ago. Springs rolled on fairly easily. A Super 2100 coudn't be much harder (I thought)..... So... I dug out some 2100 stuff, and tried to assemble a 7/8" clutch setup with new springs. Couldn't roll it on to save my life
Dan
They surprised me too. It had one broken spring when I got it so I rolled one for a 750 on it for the time being without much effort. There is quite a difference in spring coil gauges between a 750 and a Super 2100
Don Ens
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Never actually done one of this clutches. Would it work to hold the clutch pieces using a large hose clamp, then somehow use something like a muffler pipe expander tool to spread the spring in order to roll it on? They come in different sizes, trick may be to find appropriate one.
Guido Salvage
Supreme Saw Whoreder
Picked up a crate of stuff on Monday, it had some Homelite chain in it. One was a 24" of NOS loop of 1/2" chain.
Also a NOS 24" loop of .404 chain.
There were a couple dozen bags of presets and tie straps as well.
Also a NOS 24" loop of .404 chain.
There were a couple dozen bags of presets and tie straps as well.
Hi folks,
I am looking for a bit of guidance on a xl-902 I picked up. Any help would be great as I am always learning as I go along.
It appears as though someone before me had pulled the jug and reinstalled the piston backwards (locating pins should face intake right???) The rings have broken when they got hung up on the exhaust port I figure. One of the broken pieces is holding good and well within the ring groove. The other missing piece....? The saw had decent compression and I could get it to fire. I pulled the points assembly plate not realizing it actually housed/supported the crank, bearing and seal. The inside crankcase looks really nice so I would prefer to not split the case. Aside from the generous gouge on the piston there is no other scoring I can detect with my nails on the piston itself. The cylinder is very clean aside from the two nicks right at the bottom and top of the adjacent ports. Everything above the transfers/exhaust port is clean and the chrome shows no Al transfer. I don't have a proper set of calipers to measure the piston diameter but arcing my small digitals across the crown came up with 50.64mm.
I would like to track down some appropriate rings (perhaps from The Greek?) if there is a part number. Is there a preferred direction to pushing out the wrist pin (assuming that is the best way to flip the piston)? Any heat needed? I'll need to somehow get out that broken section of ring without damaging the landings. Tips? I might add this was a cheap pickup so if I can keep and run that piston I would.
I am certain to have a few more Q's so I will leave it at that.
Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to seeing how this will manage the 16" bar the PO was running!
I am looking for a bit of guidance on a xl-902 I picked up. Any help would be great as I am always learning as I go along.
It appears as though someone before me had pulled the jug and reinstalled the piston backwards (locating pins should face intake right???) The rings have broken when they got hung up on the exhaust port I figure. One of the broken pieces is holding good and well within the ring groove. The other missing piece....? The saw had decent compression and I could get it to fire. I pulled the points assembly plate not realizing it actually housed/supported the crank, bearing and seal. The inside crankcase looks really nice so I would prefer to not split the case. Aside from the generous gouge on the piston there is no other scoring I can detect with my nails on the piston itself. The cylinder is very clean aside from the two nicks right at the bottom and top of the adjacent ports. Everything above the transfers/exhaust port is clean and the chrome shows no Al transfer. I don't have a proper set of calipers to measure the piston diameter but arcing my small digitals across the crown came up with 50.64mm.
I would like to track down some appropriate rings (perhaps from The Greek?) if there is a part number. Is there a preferred direction to pushing out the wrist pin (assuming that is the best way to flip the piston)? Any heat needed? I'll need to somehow get out that broken section of ring without damaging the landings. Tips? I might add this was a cheap pickup so if I can keep and run that piston I would.
I am certain to have a few more Q's so I will leave it at that.
Thanks in advance. I am looking forward to seeing how this will manage the 16" bar the PO was running!
Warped5
WingNut
towingace
ArboristSite Guru
Mike Acres site shows your bore to be 2" (50.8mm). Love the old Homies, good luck with your find.
Ring lands are just as important as the cylinder wall surface for a good seal.
That piston is toast.
If you use it anyway, leave out the top ring as it won't seal for squat.
That piston is toast.
If you use it anyway, leave out the top ring as it won't seal for squat.
towingace
ArboristSite Guru
The first time I opened your post, I couldn't see pics. I've been trying to ID a saw that I just picked up. I was thinking it might be a xl-923, because of the manual oiler being on the side instead of the rear. Now that I see yours, I'm thinking I better keep researching, because the muffler, along with the side-mounted oiler, looks the same. I need to figure out my bore size to narrow it down. As near as I can tell, there were quite a few very similar models, but only a couple different bore sizes. The 82cc saws have a 52mm bore.
There is piston w/rings on evilbay for the 2 1/16" bore. Quit reasonable price IMHO.
I was guessing as much with the piston but had to ask the panel for certain. Thanks for the heads up on the listing.
towingace
ArboristSite Guru
I believe he has the smaller bore.
Yes, that why I listed it as 2 1/16".
Got it fellows. I am after the 2" piston pn#63780 as I read it on the ipl now? Not familiar with these saws at all.
Any luck with aftermarket or is there such?
Edit: Like this...http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOMELITE-XL...428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4a60e0d4
Any luck with aftermarket or is there such?
Edit: Like this...http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOMELITE-XL...428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4a60e0d4
towingace
ArboristSite Guru
In a pinch, I suspect the 2 1/16" rings could be filed down? As long as the other dimensions are the same, of course. Are these rings hard to come by?
