JapMax

[Newfie]

"I thought our government was top heavy; yours must be outrageous."


Most Americans have no concept of how little we pay in taxes and tarriffs compared to the rest of the civilized world. We are too busy whining about getting things for free. We all feel so ???? "entitled."

 

[Crofter]

It is hard to get a comparison of what relative costs are. How many days work would it take the average wage earner in each country to buy the same saw.

 

[Derek]

twice as long as our counterparts in the States!!!!

seams where paying double on average, for this type of equipment, but i doubt think we are paying double for milk and bread and the like, but take into concideration our fuel, currently
$AU 1.18 cents per liter ( please glens) But im sure it would be at least double. Car/truck rego and compulsory insurence is about 2500 a year (for both) our cost of living goes up conciderably, then your accomadation over there (Ibeleive) is very expencive

We own the house here but i have Some family members that pay$250 to $300 per week in rent and thats just a 3 or 4 bedroom house...If you want a bit of room near civilization expect that to be 500

Murf has often asked the question about what you guys get over there, but the answer is invaribly as a whole job and a bit hard for me to glean what an hourly rate is for climbing... Well (no secrets here) I get $AU 25.00 ph Chippers get $18 my "good" groundie gets $20... We get some overtime 2hrs a day,goes to time and a half,sat time & a 1/2 the first two, then double time for six hours (dont allways get sat in){wonder why} Saturdays I need to help offset the income tax I pay, I should know the figure % but i dont.I can tell you I pay between 5 and 700 dollars a week in tax

DiD you see timbers coment ? we could buy a piston here where as you could replace the saw for close to the same money...

GoodS and Service Tax here (gst) was supposed to be more up front with our priceing systems.. Basicly drop all the hiddin tarifs levys and taxes on items and just charge 10% strait off the top
Well its been in 4or 5 years now and I feel like im just paying another 10% on top of the same price I used to get...Derek..

 

[rumination]

Derek,

If Echo saws can be found in your area the CS-341/3400/340 (all the same saw) is worth a shot as a top handled saw. Not as fast as the 200T, but lighter, cheaper, and tough. Definitely the best bang for your buck.

 

[Grande Dog]

sedanman,
Here is a IPL for your 120si. The # for the flywheel is is still current and available. If you can't get anybody to work with you locally, just let us know.

Grande Dog
Master Mechanic
Discount Arborist Equipment and Tree Care Supplies

 

[ehp]

we have the gst here as well in canada , 7% here then you have your pst taxes and in ont . that is 8% so together that is 15% on top of the price, when i was running a high grade sawmill out west i took home 47% of my gross pay and paid over a grand a week on taxes

 

[sedanman]

Grande Dog, Thank you for the pdf file, Please e-mail me with a price for p/n 030 141 020, I also want a few spare parts for my 7900. Paul

 

[Derek]

posted by ehp
" i took home 47% of my gross pay and paid over a grand a week on taxes"

ehp WACK that must of hurt....

seems the 020 (ms200t) is a good fererence point...
Whats one worth out the door over there ??

And if your up for it How much would it cost me if i bought one in aussie dollars (less shipping)

I know we have a lot to pay for with are taxs in our countries, roads, health,education But I carnt help butt feel that I support an AWFULL LOT OF DOLE BLUDGERS over here!!

Grande dog, sedanman Sorry bout sendin ya thread off track

Take care.. Derek...

Leon

Im still looking!

 

[ehp]

Derek if you are talking to me i will check , stihl has a sale on right now and it will be on a ms200

 

[Bill G]

Glen,

Thanks for posting the calculator. I have had only one experience with the conversion to Austrailian money and I ended up in good shape on the purchase but the shipping was about twice what it would have been had I been shipping to Austrailia instead of them sending it here.


Derek,

I sent you an email. Hopefully it will come through. Let me know

Bill

 

[heviarti]

Originally posted by Mange
heviarti, Don`t you know who owns McCulloch now.

Elektrolux.

:blob5:




Mange

funny, it used to be Jenn Feng, and now appears to be MTD.

 

[gatkeper1]

Jenn Feng is still the manufacturer and holds the rights to the McCulloch name in the U.S. They entered into a marketing arrangement with MTD where they would distribute and warranty the product. Electrolux has the rights to the McCulloch name in Europe.The rest of the world gets the good saws we get the disposables

 

[Derek]

Originally posted by ehp
Derek if you are talking to me i will check , stihl has a sale on right now and it will be on a ms200

Yes ehp if you could that will ge great,nice to have compariosions, But at this point, Im tring to sort out the echo over here or a really great offer from an AS member in the states 2nd hand 020
(the 2nd hand might mean i Dont have as much tax) im looking into the tax and postage now...Cheers Derek...

 

[glens]

Originally posted by Derek
(the 2nd hand might mean i Dont have as much tax) im looking into the tax and postage now...Cheers Derek...

Like we (sometimes) do for real estate transactions, and others:  "sold for $1 and other valuable considerations".  What's the tax on $1?

Hahaha!

Good luck.

Glen

 

[ehp]

My Dad spends alot of time in Barbados , and has sent down a hoe and wheel loader, they didnot buy that story even when he was keeping it for himself , 100% duty on there idea of what it is worth, and you know they are not going to to low on the price

 

[Saw Man]

Sedanman:

Sorry I haven't responded sooner. Was in Nebraska for some training, and was invited to tour a competitors plant.

Parts....no problem. We met at Saw Fest I.
I have some pics for you...of you & yours.
If I can find the card, I'll be happy to send them.
Send me an email.

 

[jimbo1490]

Inertia Scavenging

Correct me, please if I am wrong but this StraoCharge thing sounds like just the latest iteration of the various inertia scavenging two-stroke designs that the big four Japanese bike makers patended through the 70's and 80's. The first was Yamaha's 'Torque Induction' in the mid seveties. Suzuki had the 'Power Reed' system. Honda and Kawi had theirs too, I can't recall the names. These vary as to the exact way the inertia scavenging charge is carried from the carb to the crankcase and/or directly to the cylinder. All can be lumped into variations of the original Schneurle loop scavenging design where in the incoming charge both recharges the crankcase and purges the cylinder. These are the original two strokes with flat top pistons.
And yes Japanese engineers have been at the leading edge of this technology for about 30 years. Not always the race leader, but ALWAYS in the pack. Lately they lead again.

Jimbo

 

[bwalker]

The strato charged sytem is like nothing that has been done by the big four jap bike makers. The sytem works by having a two barrel carb. One barrel sucks fuel/air mix while the other sucks just air. The port layout is such that a cushion of pure air leads the fuel air charge up through the transfers and scavanges the cylinder. The exhaust port then closes burning the a fuel mix. By using the "cushion" of pure air to scavenge the cylinder HC emmisions are reduced to nill.
I just bought a redmax blower with the sytem and it works great and is very simple. It never smokes and actually smells cleaner than my four stroke Honda pressure washer. It is also very good on fuel to the tune of about 50% when compared to the sthil unit it replaced.

 

[jimbo1490]

Alot has to be said for the japanese cars, the civic was a rust bucket but it did revolutionise the motor industry. New laws were going to be put into place in the US but all the traditional car makers got together and said "nope the new engine polution laws cant be met by us so youll have to loosen them."

The reality was a lot more complex and serendipitous than what you have stated here.
For one thing, when gas was cheap, who cared about smaller, more fuel efficient cars? Answer: NOBODY! Witness the recent SUV craze as history repeating itself again. That explains why US auto makers only made big fat V8 powered land yachts.
But why were the Japanese (and Eurpoean) auto makers already producing smaller cars by the time of the Arab oil embargo? Simple answer: They lost WWII and were prohibited by treaty to produce larger more powerful engines. This treaty condition had the unexpected side effect of forcing the Japanese, Germans and Italians to concentrate on improving small engines and motorcycles.
Another factor was the discontent among american auto designers, engineers and middle managers in the 70's. They had been making basically the same cars for about 15 years except for sheet metals changes. When the Japanese heard the opportunity of higher oil prices knocking, they knew they were not really ready to dive into the american market just yet; they really did not know how to build good cars. Those (rightly) disgruntled key employees of the big three were just the ticket! Those guys taught the Japanese the car business and then they ran with it! And I'm quite sure they all had much more satisfying careers because of it. The Detriot management was just too complacent!

Jimbo

 

[jimbo1490]

Please indulge me for a minute that this is really not too dissimilar to the more advanced loop scavenge systems currently offered. The brilliant thing that these guys have done is to completely seperate the 'scavenge' air from the main charge and to maintain correct metering of the fuel air mixture by passing the scavenge air through a special carbeurator which senses the scavenge air mass but adds the needed fuel only to the 'charge' air mass, keeping the scavenge air mass free of fuel. Yamaha, Suzuki et. al. have had seperate charge and scavenge air forever, and the scavenge air is always last in and always helps push the exhaust out; that part is NOT new.(remember the Puch twin carb 250? Looking back now, they almost had it there too! The scavenge air was totally seperate all the way out, thus the two carbs. Could be a way around these new patents since that system used both reed and rotary induction, rotary for main and reed for scavenge. Hmmm..) But nobody ever thought of keeping the fuel out of the scavenge charge, after all, all the bike guys want is more power. Brilliant idea! It would take new regulation to create the necessity of a cleaner two-stroke to get people's mind's thinking in new ways, i suppose. Evolutionary though, rather than revolutionary. Kudos to the inventors!

Jimbo

P.S.

I was always a real fan of the big two stroke street bikes and was sad to see them go away for emissions reasons. Maybe now they can come back!