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Missed the Tennessee GTG - a tale of my attempt to console myself.

I missed the Tennessee GTG today. This morning, I went with my wife to get fodder stacks and pumpkins. After other duties were done, I told her I was going to go cut some wood. What an afternoon, nothing went as planned! Saw troubles and return to amateur status!

I just wanted to see how BETTY would run (for those who came in late, BETTY is my SP125C named after my late mother) and get a little cutting exercise as I try to get back in shape after sitting out last season. I thought I would go down to the woodlot and cut up some of the bigger stuff the others leave. I thought I might even try to shoot a video of BETTY vs PM800. I pulled BETTY off the shelf only to notice the muffler is gone. I can’t remember what I did with it so I put a new one on her although I wanted to put a good coat of paint on it before I used it. As I am running my packing list through my mind I remember that s-i-l has my 40/1 mix. Good excuse to get a new gas can. I hate the new ones that require you to hold a flimsy lever back while squeezing the handle. I go to NAPA thinking they will have something different. They did. It took the salesman and me together to get the thing to work – some plunger type operation required. He tells me that they are on sale and I sarcastically reply, “No wonder.” Any way I play with it and decide to take a chance. I filled her up with mid-grade no ethanol.

I get back home and as I let every precious drop of that St**l Ultra drain into the gas, I get BETTY out. I can’t get her to start, then on the thirtieth pull the rewind quits. I rewind it but it still wouldn’t work. I remove the entire mechanism to discover that one of the legs is broken off (appears to be an old break; the cover screw kept this hidden), the recoil spring is either broken or pulled through the housing and the recoil housing is broken where the spring end goes (also appears to be an old injury). I console myself my repeating to myself “She isn’t a new saw. She isn’t a new saw.” Fortunately I have a spare so I put it on and she fires right up. I top BETTY off with the new mix. Load her and a PM800 in the Landcruiser. By now it I have spent almost two hours and haven’t accomplished a single thing on my list. On my way to the woodlot, I decide it is too late to cut much at the woodlot so on the spur of the moment I resolve to face my adversary – the big red oak that tried to kill me last November and put me on the bench for the season.
I change course and upon arrival I size her up – I find she is just like Ripcord, mdavlee, a friend and I left her after they sawed a chunk off her to take to last January’s GTG - I set the camera up on a tripod for my first ever video. First up is BETTY sporting a 32” bar with a new .404 full comp round filed Carlton chisel. She cuts great. Even with all the weight I have to press her down to keep from over revving. No hint of bogging though completely buried. Next is a PM800 also sporting a 32” bar but with a used full skip square chisel 3/8” St**l. She cuts well but of course not as fast. Chain is not near as smooth. She also requires some down pressure but doesn’t over rev when you don’t. I stop each cut before I get to the bottom as I don’t want my round rolling off down the hill. For some reason I just remember that I forgot to shake my new gas can before topping off BETTY – who knows what the mix ratio is now in the saw or the can.

They say consistency is the key to good marksmanship – learn to group em and then dial in your corrections. This doesn’t apply very well to bucking when you have to cut from both sides as your error is compounded. I guess I was too focused on how hard I could push the PM800 that I wandered way off course on both sides. I also ran to the right with BETTY on the low side. It would only be twice the work if I just had started over and made a straight cut but “NO”, I got to try and fix it which ends up being three times the work. Against my better judgment, I use a steel wedge to see if I can simply split it – CAN”T. I carefully stuck the PM800 back in there but I hit the wedge while cutting. I have now completely devolved to an amateur. I have included pictures to prove it. Yes, pictures as the only things that got videoed were by accident - a video of my wedge, a video of two sitting saws and a video of me measuring the stem end (measured 47” and 48”, the butt end is on the right and not shown; that is the end that tried to kill me). I didn’t include them.

I finish hacking up the PM800 cut with BETTY and pull the chunk over with the Landcruiser as I am now barred from wrestling rounds this size.

Now for the good parts of the day: BETTY proved to be a good saw. A PM800 and patience is all I really need. BETTY is more fun though. The square chisel chain suffered only minor damage. And the gas can actually turned out to be a good purchase. Ron

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Aaron, I was kidding. I believe thats a fair price if it runs well. One thats been gone over, tuned, new bar and chain at the shop for $125 now, may make an ice saw out of it. That one is close to looking that sweet.

I sold one last summer? for $60 that had a new bar and chain, and was orange and yellow and I think that clutch cover was painted black.

Why I'm telling you this I have no idea, now you'll want a fortune for saw 2.

I'd buy 10-10's at fifty bucks all day if they are runners, more so than the 600's.

Don't-chu worry Jeff. That 200 is still yours for the cost of the ride to Mn. It's a llittle rough externally (clutch cover's got a few non-critical bits broken away, and the fuel tank has part of the handlebar mounting bracket broken off), but the engine's in great shape with lots of compression. The clutch cover and fuel tank are still functional, but you may wanna replace 'em sometime down the road if you score nicer parts. Parts donor 1-50 thru 380 saws are abundant. Has a rim drive clutch drum too. Needs a carb kit. B/C are about the same size as what's on your C-5. Maybe an inch longer.

I've got a nice runner 10-10A that you may want down the road sometime too. Not sure if I wanna part with it yet. Yard sale find (the day after my truck died.......dashing my PNW GTG hopes). Looks like the little brother to my SP-81. Maybe we'll work something out for that one in the future. The 10-10 that's currently listed on CL for $50 is a couple hours drive (one way) from me. They come up a lot.



I missed the Tennessee GTG today. This morning, I went with my wife to get fodder stacks and pumpkins. After other duties were done, I told her I was going to go cut some wood. What an afternoon, nothing went as planned! Saw troubles and return to amateur status!

I just wanted to see how BETTY would run (for those who came in late, BETTY is my SP125C named after my late mother) and get a little cutting exercise as I try to get back in shape after sitting out last season. I thought I would go down to the woodlot and cut up some of the bigger stuff the others leave. I thought I might even try to shoot a video of BETTY vs PM800. I pulled BETTY off the shelf only to notice the muffler is gone. I can’t remember what I did with it so I put a new one on her although I wanted to put a good coat of paint on it before I used it. As I am running my packing list through my mind I remember that s-i-l has my 40/1 mix. Good excuse to get a new gas can. I hate the new ones that require you to hold a flimsy lever back while squeezing the handle. I go to NAPA thinking they will have something different. They did. It took the salesman and me together to get the thing to work – some plunger type operation required. He tells me that they are on sale and I sarcastically reply, “No wonder.” Any way I play with it and decide to take a chance. I filled her up with mid-grade no ethanol.

I get back home and as I let every precious drop of that St**l Ultra drain into the gas, I get BETTY out. I can’t get her to start, then on the thirtieth pull the rewind quits. I rewind it but it still wouldn’t work. I remove the entire mechanism to discover that one of the legs is broken off (appears to be an old break; the cover screw kept this hidden), the recoil spring is either broken or pulled through the housing and the recoil housing is broken where the spring end goes (also appears to be an old injury). I console myself my repeating to myself “She isn’t a new saw. She isn’t a new saw.” Fortunately I have a spare so I put it on and she fires right up. I top BETTY off with the new mix. Load her and a PM800 in the Landcruiser. By now it I have spent almost two hours and haven’t accomplished a single thing on my list. On my way to the woodlot, I decide it is too late to cut much at the woodlot so on the spur of the moment I resolve to face my adversary – the big red oak that tried to kill me last November and put me on the bench for the season.
I change course and upon arrival I size her up – I find she is just like Ripcord, mdavlee, a friend and I left her after they sawed a chunk off her to take to last January’s GTG - I set the camera up on a tripod for my first ever video. First up is BETTY sporting a 32” bar with a new .404 full comp round filed Carlton chisel. She cuts great. Even with all the weight I have to press her down to keep from over revving. No hint of bogging though completely buried. Next is a PM800 also sporting a 32” bar but with a used full skip square chisel 3/8” St**l. She cuts well but of course not as fast. Chain is not near as smooth. She also requires some down pressure but doesn’t over rev when you don’t. I stop each cut before I get to the bottom as I don’t want my round rolling off down the hill. For some reason I just remember that I forgot to shake my new gas can before topping off BETTY – who knows what the mix ratio is now in the saw or the can.

They say consistency is the key to good marksmanship – learn to group em and then dial in your corrections. This doesn’t apply very well to bucking when you have to cut from both sides as your error is compounded. I guess I was too focused on how hard I could push the PM800 that I wandered way off course on both sides. I also ran to the right with BETTY on the low side. It would only be twice the work if I just had started over and made a straight cut but “NO”, I got to try and fix it which ends up being three times the work. Against my better judgment, I use a steel wedge to see if I can simply split it – CAN”T. I carefully stuck the PM800 back in there but I hit the wedge while cutting. I have now completely devolved to an amateur. I have included pictures to prove it. Yes, pictures as the only things that got videoed were by accident - a video of my wedge, a video of two sitting saws and a video of me measuring the stem end (measured 47” and 48”, the butt end is on the right and not shown; that is the end that tried to kill me). I didn’t include them.

I finish hacking up the PM800 cut with BETTY and pull the chunk over with the Landcruiser as I am now barred from wrestling rounds this size.

Now for the good parts of the day: BETTY proved to be a good saw. A PM800 and patience is all I really need. BETTY is more fun though. The square chisel chain suffered only minor damage. And the gas can actually turned out to be a good purchase. Ron

We all have days like that Ron. Yours sounds better than a few that I've had lately. Only the last pic (wedge with the bite taken out of it) shows up for me. The rest are white boxes with red X's.
 
Since I got the Eager Beaver 2.0 running I figured I would dive into the Mac 110 and see why it is not running. Compression feels good cyclined looks good so I am taking it apart now. PIctures tells the story so far as to why it might not be running. Sure is not the first time it has been apart:laugh:

I noticed the saw is pretty clean inside which this would account for why it was still clean as it never ran after being put back together:D


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Since I got the Eager Beaver 2.0 running I figured I would dive into the Mac 110 and see why it is not running. Compression feels good cyclined looks good so I am taking it apart now. PIctures tells the story so far as to why it might not be running. Sure is not the first time it has been apart:laugh:

I noticed the saw is pretty clean inside which this would account for why it was still clean as it never ran after being put back together:D

Can't see anything wrong there...:jester:
 
I have two SP105's on hand now, had three for a while but I traded one with Ike Hoff for a Super 797.

One came from Belgian, even has the Mechlen tag.

The second one came from Washington in the big box of saw & parts I got a couple of years ago. There were two SP105's in the box, one to Ike Hoff and the other is still with me.

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I have two SP105's on hand now, had three for a while but I traded one with Ike Hoff for a Super 797.

One came from Belgian, even has the Mechlen tag.

The second one came from Washington in the big box of saw & parts I got a couple of years ago. There were two SP105's in the box, one to Ike Hoff and the other is still with me.


Mark

Can you tell any significant difference between your 105s and your 125s?

I was looking for a 105 for two reasons: The man downunder says the 105 makes a better saw than the 125 and I was toying with collecting a complete set of the nine SP saws. I have since decided to give up on the collection as I only had three of them which would mean six more saws plus I don't like the SP40; the SP80, 81 and 81E are almost redundant as are the SP125 and 125C. So I gave my SP81E to chainsawmanXX (Jacob, I haven't shipped it, yet) and sold my SP81/PM850 nos cylinder to Stinkbait (Mitchell, I haven't shipped it yet either). I don't know what I'll do with my dismantled SP70. Ron
 
Can you tell any significant difference between your 105s and your 125s?

I was looking for a 105 for two reasons: The man downunder says the 105 makes a better saw than the 125 and I was toying with collecting a complete set of the nine SP saws. I have since decided to give up on the collection as I only had three of them which would mean six more saws plus I don't like the SP40; the SP80, 81 and 81E are almost redundant as are the SP125 and 125C. So I gave my SP81E to chainsawmanXX (Jacob, I haven't shipped it, yet) and sold my SP81/PM850 nos cylinder to Stinkbait (Mitchell, I haven't shipped it yet either). I don't know what I'll do with my dismantled SP70. Ron

Does that SP70 have a good P/C Ron? If so, then get some gaskets and seals and put it back together. Acres lists it as a rigid saw (like a PM700), but I gather it's actually an AV saw like an SP-81. Never seen an SP-70 in person.
 
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Does that SP70 have a good P/C Ron? If so, then get to gaskets and seals and put it back together. Acres lists it as a rigid saw (like a PM700), but I gather it's actually an AV saw like an SP-81. Never seen an SP-70 in person.

Here's one on eBay: Mcculloch super pro 70 | eBay He also has a couple of SP60s and a 10 series geardrive. Ron
 
Can you tell any significant difference between your 105s and your 125s?

I was looking for a 105 for two reasons: The man downunder says the 105 makes a better saw than the 125 and I was toying with collecting a complete set of the nine SP saws. I have since decided to give up on the collection as I only had three of them which would mean six more saws plus I don't like the SP40; the SP80, 81 and 81E are almost redundant as are the SP125 and 125C. So I gave my SP81E to chainsawmanXX (Jacob, I haven't shipped it, yet) and sold my SP81/PM850 nos cylinder to Stinkbait (Mitchell, I haven't shipped it yet either). I don't know what I'll do with my dismantled SP70. Ron

I can't imagine how the 105 could be better than the 125 at anything. I believe they are the same weight, yet the 105 is giving up 18cc's of displacement. The 125 truly is a great cutting machine. Besides not having a chain brake (normally) it can pretty much do everything that a modern 7 cube saw does.
 
Let's see what you got. I'm about to turn one of the spares into a SP101B so you better hurry. Ron

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Here it is in a big piece of Oak.

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Well, If you're putting a 101 in it, I'll wait til your done, and then trade! LOL
 
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I can't imagine how the 105 could be better than the 125 at anything. I believe they are the same weight, yet the 105 is giving up 18cc's of displacement. The 125 truly is a great cutting machine. Besides not having a chain brake (normally) it can pretty much do everything that a modern 7 cube saw does.

You'll get no argument from me. Compare its specs with the modern saws of similar displacement and you'll be hard pressed to find any real advancement. As between the SP105 and the 125, the same could be said about the PM700 and the 1010s but there are a lot of happy 1010 owners. Personally, I have stuck with the PM700 due to its displacement and no concern about gas mileage. However, I have noticed in automotive engines that certain bore and stroke combinations seem to be better than others; having never used a SP105, I can't help but wonder if the man downunder wasn't on to something.

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Here it is in a big piece of Oak.

Well, If you're putting a 101 in it, I'll wait til your done, and then trade! LOL

Nice saw. I hope you have a steady supply of nice size wood for it. Ron
 
I can't imagine how the 105 could be better than the 125 at anything. I believe they are the same weight, yet the 105 is giving up 18cc's of displacement. The 125 truly is a great cutting machine. Besides not having a chain brake (normally) it can pretty much do everything that a modern 7 cube saw does.

It is interesting that this has come to light - I spoke to an elderly gentleman who was a McCulloch dealer for most of his life, as well as a respected racer and builder of McCulloch race saws, and he too said that in his opinion - the 105 was a better machine than the 125. His race saws were 797 based - all alcohol burners.

Regards,

Chris.
 
Have they changed the way you embed videos? I can't seem to get it to work.
I haven't heard that about the 105, but I know what you're saying. Much like the 429 fords I have had seem stronger than the 460. Of course extra smog equipment required in the early 70's can be blamed for some of that.
 
i love my SP105, but i've never ran it next to a SP125. I've always thought it would be like a PM700 is faster than a 10-10. i still think that the SP125 would be faster. I can say that the SP105 at 106.5cc is MUCH faster than my 740 at 99cc and the SP105 has a 38"bar compared to the 740 which has a 20". I would love to find someone with a SP125 and run them against each other, better yet, maybe i just need to go get a SP125:D. well, here is a video of mine running. its not a new video, you guys probably have already seen it.


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I think my auto oiler has stopped working but not really sure as I'm a thumb pusher by birth. On the McCulloch 125 do you turn the adjustment screw right for more or right for less oil? The manual oiler button works good, just can't seem to figure this one out. All my other saws oil themselves without problems, actually they pour the oil on just like I like it. I can't seem to keep my thumb off either, just this one concerns me just a little.

The manual doesn't really cover maintenance either, so before I dive in....right for more or right for less?

Thanks,
 
I think my auto oiler has stopped working but not really sure as I'm a thumb pusher by birth. On the McCulloch 125 do you turn the adjustment screw right for more or right for less oil? The manual oiler button works good, just can't seem to figure this one out. All my other saws oil themselves without problems, actually they pour the oil on just like I like it. I can't seem to keep my thumb off either, just this one concerns me just a little.

The manual doesn't really cover maintenance either, so before I dive in....right for more or right for less?

Thanks,

You back the adjustment screw out for more oil. The screw limits the oiler piston's travel.
 
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