MS441 R C-M M-Tronic Review and Mods

[MacLaren]

Alright, the testing's done but Andre's at my house drinking beer.....

HAHAHA! Very funny! Slow torture huh? :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[FATGUY]

looks like there's gonna be some more raffle ticket sales.....

 

[mdavlee]

So they'll be more ticket sold you say:msp_smile: Does that mean that maybe the husky is stronger with a muffler mod?:help:

 

[the westspartan]

numbers! we want numbers!!!!!

 

[blsnelling]

Alright, the testing's done but Andre's at my house drinking beer.....

Slacker! Totally unacceptable!

 

[the westspartan]

You guys are killing me!

 

[blsnelling]

Matters not whether the Stihl came in first or not. It won't even be close here shortly

 

[Philbert]

Matters not whether the Stihl came in first or not. It won't even be close here shortly

Even if the STIHL came in first, the Husqvarna guys will say that it came in 'second to last'.

Philbert

 

[Andyshine77]

Well I have the numbers, not sure if I want to post them or not.:dribble:

 

[MacLaren]

My little girl woke up bright and early at 0530..............:tire:



.....and now I see what Andre just said.....aint lookin good for team Sweden..............:too_sad:

 

[Andyshine77]

My little girl woke up bright and early at 0530..............:tire:



.....and now I see what Andre just said.....aint lookin good for team Sweden..............:too_sad:

Hold on there bro, you never know.

I'm up with a bad headache, and no beer has nothing to do with it.:msp_unsure:

 

[MacLaren]

Okey dokey! Never thought beer had aything to do with it..........well, maybee a wee bit...........lol.

Were cool man, but the suspence is a little much!

 

[Andyshine77]

I've had a hell of a time with Youtube tonight, I've loaded the video three times now with no success, maybe the fourth time will work.

 

[MacLaren]

I've had a hell of a time with Youtube tonight, I've loaded the video three times now with no success, maybe the fourth time will work.

Well, if it dosent, then dont worry about it. Lay down and try to get that headache to go away. The wife just got up and gave me a reprieve, so thats what i'm gonna do.......BTW, thanks again for takin the time to do all this Andy.

 

[Andyshine77]

Well, if it dosent, then dont worry about it. Lay down and try to get that headache to go away. The wife just got up and gave me a reprieve, so thats what i'm gonna do.......BTW, thanks again for takin the time to do all this Andy.

I enjoyed running the saws/toys. Yes it did take time and some effort, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[Terry Syd]

This is an interesting thread for the simple reason it relates to the issue of jetting/mixture. People are reporting rave reviews on saws that have the same porting, muffler and carb size, but have a carburetor that gives more optimum mixture control.

I have to wonder where the interest was over the years in getting a standard carburetor jetted correctly. A lot of you guys have come from backgrounds of building other engines and I would bet big time that you spent some time working on the mixture control for those engines. However, when it comes to chainsaws, that bit of understanding about tuning just didn't make the transition to the diaphragm carb.

It would be real interesting to see how close a reworked stock carb (probably using different pop-off pressures) would get to the new electronic carbs.

 

[Andyshine77]

No matter how you look at the numbers the 576 has a lower average cut time than the 441. Even if you take out the fastest and slowest times the 576 still comes out on top, I'm actually shocked. I truly thought the 441 was faster, I even said so in the video. Take note how strong perception is, and can be.

You can tell right away the 576 responded well to the MM, the throttle response is much better, still not quite as fast as the 441, but it's very close. Muffler mods seem to work really well on both saws, they truly feel like hot rods right out of the box. I was leaning toward the 441 this whole time, but now knowing the 576 has the power, I think it's a more complete package, than the 441. The 576 build quality is what really stands out to me, as Nik said it's seamless. Like with most pro saws it really comes down to dealer support, or simply what you like.

Here are all the times

576-AT

14.99
14.18
13.96
14.88
14.23
14.96
Average time 14.53333

441-M

16.15
14.06
14.94
13.15
14.87
15.76
Average time 14.82167

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As you can see we're really splitting hairs, the times are so close it really comes down to variations in the wood and the operator, I really call it a tie.

 

[Stihlman441]

Nice job there Andy with the vids and reports.
Cant say i have ever been cuttin wood in shorts,white socks and sneakerys,what ever works for you mate.:biggrin:

 

[Andyshine77]

Nice job there Andy with the vids and reports.
Cant say i have ever been cuttin wood in shorts,white socks and sneakerys,what ever works for you mate.:biggrin:

I knew that was coming.:cool2:

 

[AUSSIE1]

Nice job there Andy with the vids and reports.
Cant say i have ever been cuttin wood in shorts,white socks and sneakerys,what ever works for you mate.:biggrin:

Andrew that's been Andy's signature cutting outfit for years.

Thanks Andy for your efforts, great/interesting reading.

BTW, what would Nik know....he's just a piss head!