NorTrac Tractors

[eric_271]

Theres alota talk about cheap tractors here,. AND most of them are JUNK tractrs, If you plan on WORKING them,..IF you want a Quality tractor Kubota is the one,...New Holland is a joke, Jd is a copy, of what ever,.. Kubota is the REAL thing,. Eric

Ignorance must be bliss.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[sawyerDave]

No, kubota is making a living from a great tractor. Your neighbor had a lemon? Sh#t happens in every make and model of everything made and sold from cars to tractors to anything else. Your statement aint no better then his.

Other than the first sentence, you are merely repeating exactly what I said, which makes you worse than Hitler, LOL
:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[eric_271]

Other than the first sentence, you are merely repeating exactly what I said, which makes you worse than Hitler, LOL
:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Hitler aint got sh#t on me pardner.

 

[cabinman]

My appoligezes

I did make a Blanket statment, Which was wrong,..Thinking more clearily now It was almost racest,..And I appoligise,..Good is Good Bad is Bad, And LEMONS are Lemons,.. With all that said,.. KUBOTA is KING,..NO offence Intended, Eric

 

[cabinman]

Ill Bet

Ignorance must be bliss.:hmm3grin2orange:

Iam not a betin man ,..but, Id bet, U

 

[eric_271]

Iam not a betin man ,..but, Id bet, U

You could have bet me on the Memphis/KU game, are you glad you diden't?

 

[NC Firewood]

he bought it from the dealer who bought it back from some retired dentist gentleman farmer. what a pile.we have welded and braced the loader arms more times than i can remember.clutch never worked right after being replaced.it's a gutless turd and has had constant mechanical failures.we have more time repairing it than using it.he ranted about not buying a ricer Kubota like i told him to.if he had listened he would have been working instead of fixing.

i think if you look you will notice Kubota resale prices are right up there.everyone said that asian tractors were just a fad and wouldn't last here when Kubota came on the scene decades ago.kinda like toyota and honda cars wouldn't be around long either.where is toyota in sales these days?

Mechanical failure can be attributed to two things, defective parts or operator error. Not every machine is going to come out bullet proof. I'm not trying to sound bias toward American iron I'm just talking from experience. I base my opion on proven true "work" hrs. on a machine. I don't mean pulling the woodsplitter around or a trailer with yard debris. My grandad's got a handlebar snapper from the revolutionary war that will do that. We farm roughly 80 acres of flue cured tobacco, 600+acres of soybeans and wheat, and approx. 8 acres of watermelon. Nothing I own has less than 3000 hrs. and newer than 92'. We still "daily" use tractors from the 50's-60's including Super A's, M's, and MF 285. I promise the snot has been run out of every piece of machinery. Give yourself a gut check, take a 35 hp kubota or comperable ricer and put a set of bottom plows on it. (Do those tractors have 3 point hitches?) Better yet, a 7 tine gigger. Knock old school all you want, keep plastic fenders and computer controlled everything away from me. Keep it simple, easy to service, it will out live you. Not being arrogant but we'll put more hrs. on a tractor in a year than some might see in a lifetime. Guess it takes longer to rack hrs. when you just scrap driveways and bushog w/ a finishing mower.

 

[cabinman]

Got that

Mechanical failure can be attributed to two things, defective parts or operator error. Not every machine is going to come out bullet proof. I'm not trying to sound bias toward American iron I'm just talking from experience. I base my opion on proven true "work" hrs. on a machine. I don't mean pulling the woodsplitter around or a trailer with yard debris. My grandad's got a handlebar snapper from the revolutionary war that will do that. We farm roughly 80 acres of flue cured tobacco, 600+acres of soybeans and wheat, and approx. 8 acres of watermelon. Nothing I own has less than 3000 hrs. and newer than 92'. We still "daily" use tractors from the 50's-60's including Super A's, M's, and MF 285. I promise the snot has been run out of every piece of machinery. Give yourself a gut check, take a 35 hp kubota or comperable ricer and put a set of bottom plows on it. (Do those tractors have 3 point hitches?) Better yet, a 7 tine gigger. Knock old school all you want, keep plastic fenders and computer controlled everything away from me. Keep it simple, easy to service, it will out live you. Not being arrogant but we'll put more hrs. on a tractor in a year than some might see in a lifetime. Guess it takes longer to rack hrs. when you just scrap driveways and bushog w/ a finishing mower.

Iam still lookin for a super A, I have the M and the H farmall,..My best / favorite/ latest memory of the M was workin 80 acres, with a 12 ft disc harrow, with the M, Today its 50 plus foot tillers and satilite steering,.The real / OK, the best tractors back then were the M farmall, 560 International, and of course, the 4020 John Deere, And that hasent changed,.I will concede,..There are other great ones as well,,..Eric

 

[NC Firewood]

Iam still lookin for a super A, I have the M and the H farmall,..My best / favorite/ latest memory of the M was workin 80 acres, with a 12 ft disc harrow, with the M, Today its 50 plus foot tillers and satilite steering,.The real / OK, the best tractors back then were the M farmall, 560 International, and of course, the 4020 John Deere, And that hasent changed,.I will concede,..There are other great ones as well,,..Eric

I'm a big heavy IH fan, give me 1086-1486 snub nose w/ turbo whine. Thank God someone on here knows about american muscle. What do you think built this country, what logged this nation over, what farmed the food for the world...American Iron. Red blood, over built, ridgid machinery, plain and simple.

 

[gink595]

Iam still lookin for a super A, I have the M and the H farmall,..My best / favorite/ latest memory of the M was workin 80 acres, with a 12 ft disc harrow, with the M, Today its 50 plus foot tillers and satilite steering,.The real / OK, the best tractors back then were the M farmall, 560 International, and of course, the 4020 John Deere, And that hasent changed,.I will concede,..There are other great ones as well,,..Eric

Wow, we seem to agree on tractor choices Eric, I like the 460/560 also. I have one I bought a couple years ago (560 gas) I'd like to find a motor for it, but I think the older tractors have a good price to hp ratio!! Unfortunatly the 460/560 was a major flop when they were first produced they had a weak bull gear that would break, IH set up tents to repair these flawed tractors.After they were fixed they were a nice tractor, unfortunatly I guess a lot of IH people turned green because of that, it is said that the 460/560 is the reason IH has been lacking since! You can tell if the 4/560 was fixed if it has a triangle notch in the serial tag, I think it affected the 59'-early 60' models. Also I believe they were the first 6 cyl tractor IH made.

 

[eric_271]

I'm a big heavy IH fan, give me 1086-1486 snub nose w/ turbo whine. Thank God someone on here knows about american muscle. What do you think built this country, what logged this nation over, what farmed the food for the world...American Iron. Red blood, over built, ridgid machinery, plain and simple.

My G707 miniapolis would pull a 6 bottom plow pretty good. Fine old tractor but it was what it was. The future is here and so are better tractors. I wont let my self get hung up on who builds it. I will take a new jap built 4 will drive any day of the week and get more done compared to the good old tractors of yester year. After useing a 4 wheel drive tractor I find 2 wheel drive to be pretty useless. If and I say if there is an american built 4x4 in the class I am looking at that can come close to the kubota in build and dependability I would not have a problem buying it. Around here if your tractor dont burn 200 gallons of fuel a day you really dont have any muscle at all.

 

[jags]

I will throw my hat in the ring with the old iron. For a small loader tractor (and backhoe) I have found the 580CK Case, an unbeatable tractor. Mind you, this is not a 3 point pto tractor (although it can be), but an industrial loader, that can't be broke with a heavy hoe on the back of it. Traction is not an issue with the weight the back wheels are carrying, you NEVER get stuck because you are carrying your own extraction machine with you (the hoe) and the loader can lift things that are beyond most INDUSTRIAL needs. It is a relatively small tractor at about 40-45 hp, but with the forward/reverse shuttle and converter, I will match it's "small tractor" loader capabilities to anything built. Its a 1964 with 4000 hrs. Yes thats 4000. A nice used one can be had for under $7000 and a really nice one can be had for under $10,000. It will literally "toss" a pickup around like a toy (had to do it just for fun)

If you have a need for parts, they are readily available (engine has been re-sleeved once). For loader work, if you have ever used a machine that has a shuttle (forward/reverse) you will never want to jump on a geared machine again. For those of you that do not know what a shuttle is: the tractor has 4 gears (1 thru 4), Select the gear (speed/power) that is correct for the job. Forward and reverse directions are changed by a lever at the steering wheel (like turn signals). Just my opinion of course, and this is not in response to needs of pulling equipment (mower, plow, etc.) but in response to loader tractors.

Edit: I also have a 1939 VC case (woods belly mower), a 1942 (I think) DC case and a 1954 VAC case for the mower pulling stuff. If they only had hour meters..........I'm sure it would be impressive.

 

[czar800]

This Old "junk" Will see 350 plus acres in a couple of weeks and its farm that or more for years!!! That 856 and 1026 are 1960 something and I would take the old Vs. new any day!!! The light switch shorted out the other day on thhe 856 and burned most of the wiring of and it took about 3-4 hr too rewire the whole tractor. Tell me how long it would take to do that on a "New" tractor. The other thing when it shorted out I still was able to start it with a screwdriver, Tell me you can do that on a "NEW" one with all them safety switches electric fuel pumps....... You get what I'am saying!!! The old just don't stop running..
I love them 560, we had a 560 diesel with a turbo and it ran 96hp.. would still have it but my pap got off it one day and did't set the brake and well need I say more...tell me in 40 plus years the "NEW" of today will be as good as the "OLD" of today! in 40 years I bet i could still farm with these tractors.....
The tin work was off in the picture to rewire it.. OOO what a job ( NOT )

 

[eric_271]

czar my first thoughts are if 350 acers is all you are farming and you tilled that same ground last year that soil has not had enough time to get tight and put any wear on ''your old junk''. Could be thats why its still rolling. Here is a pic of my 1971 IH 3500 series a. I paid $500 for this old ho and I feel like I'm still getting f#cked. Give me the new iron any day.

 

[gtstang462002]

czar my first thoughts are if 350 acers is all you are farming and you tilled that same ground last year that soil has not had enough time to get tight and put any wear on ''your old junk''. Could be thats why its still rolling. Here is a pic of my 1971 IH 3500 series a. I paid $500 for this old ho and I feel like I'm still getting f#cked. Give me the new iron any day.

I will give you your $500 back if you want out from under it.

 

[czar800]

I will give you your $500 back if you want out from under it.

+1

 

[Hugenpoet]

I base my opion on proven true "work" hrs. on a machine. I don't mean pulling the woodsplitter around or a trailer with yard debris. .......Guess it takes longer to rack hrs. when you just scrap driveways and bushog w/ a finishing mower.

May we therefore assume you don't count among your closest friends too many "Gentlemen Farmers".

 

[eric_271]

I will give you your $500 back if you want out from under it.

I have an old saying ''an old ho is better then no ho'' and I was offered $7000 for it. $7000 wont make a dent in the new iron I want so I'm stuck with it I guess and should be happy. Its a work horse but high maintenance and what parts that can be had come at a high cost. Other parts just cant be found any more. A company I worked for had retired it. I asked the owner of the company what he would take for it and he complained about property taxes coming up and that he would take $500 for it just to get rid of it. So now I just have more junk but it is pretty handy junk.

 

[cabinman]

Obvisouly

My G707 miniapolis would pull a 6 bottom plow pretty good. Fine old tractor but it was what it was. The future is here and so are better tractors. I wont let my self get hung up on who builds it. I will take a new jap built 4 will drive any day of the week and get more done compared to the good old tractors of yester year. After useing a 4 wheel drive tractor I find 2 wheel drive to be pretty useless. If and I say if there is an american built 4x4 in the class I am looking at that can come close to the kubota in build and dependability I would not have a problem buying it. Around here if your tractor dont burn 200 gallons of fuel a day you really dont have any muscle at all.

YOU are obviouly limited In more ways than one,..If you cant keep a farmall m workin, or the 560,..and even the JD 4020,..And you want a new tractor,...Good luck,..You will be paying the dealer or some one to come out and tell you that you are not sitting right on the seat,..AND thats why the little startie thingy dosent work,...You are obvisouly a inexperinced tractor opperator and dont have a clue, when you think a two wheel drive tractor is useless,...Theres the clue, You dont know how to get a 2 wheel drive to work for you, WHY? because you cant figure it out,....Eric

 

[eric_271]

YOU are obviouly limited In more ways than one,..If you cant keep a farmall m workin, or the 560,..and even the JD 4020,..And you want a new tractor,...Good luck,..You will be paying the dealer or some one to come out and tell you that you are not sitting right on the seat,..AND thats why the little startie thingy dosent work,...You are obvisouly a inexperinced tractor opperator and dont have a clue, when you think a two wheel drive tractor is useless,...Theres the clue, You dont know how to get a 2 wheel drive to work for you, WHY? because you cant figure it out,....Eric

Put the bottle down, you have had way too much.:jawdrop: