Pioneer chainsaws

[Arrowhead]

I agree, I switched to the 2 piece also. I have never seen a P50 with points either.

 

[P62]

P50??

Gentlemen
I picked up the P50?? I went to look at today. Price was right even for parts. the tag on the bottom is a P50. It has a decompression?? The coil mounts are the same locations as the newer P42 saws? The saw has no spark. The blue coil has a dead short. The saw has good compression and not damaged. The paint is typical of most P40 and P50 saws I has seen. The paint can almost be wiped off. I have not seen a P50 with this style of ignition before. What do you think? Also picked up a new Pioneer Partner bar and a good looking P41. Didn't need it but it looked good. Still trading on the P60. Got the horse blanket out and I may have to put a 3/8 logging chain on my corner to close the deal.

 

[propliner]

P50

That kind of looks like a Farmsaw coil. I'd buy the newer P52/62 black coil if it has those mounts. There has definitely been some modifying there. I think you'd need the P52 flywheel too if that one didn't work. Those Farmsaw blue coils are unreliable at best.

 

[P62]

P50??

That kind of looks like a Farmsaw coil. I'd buy the newer P52/62 black coil if it has those mounts. There has definitely been some modifying there. I think you'd need the P52 flywheel too if that one didn't work. Those Farmsaw blue coils are unreliable at best.

Looks like a farmsaw coil to me as well. I grabbed a P42 coil and it bolted right on. Still no spark. I have a couple of coils and flywheels from a P42. I might get lucky. The decompression buttom is black. Might be a cobb job.

 

[propliner]

What is the number cast into the flywheel?

 

[P62]

P50??

The flywheel is blank. No numbers no Made in Canada or name. Will have to pull the wheel. Most likely a raised number on the back

 

[DroppedP51]

Hi all
What is this saw?
Its on our local auction site in New zealand
I can only look at it as ive promised the mrs no more saws

 

[artie__bc]

That's an IEL HC.

 

[Jacob J.]

That's an IEL HC.

Yep, and it's missing the muffler...

P62- I have brand new flywheels and coils for the P-50/51/52/60/61/62 saws...

 

[P62]

Yep, and it's missing the muffler...

P62- I have brand new flywheels and coils for the P-50/51/52/60/61/62 saws...

Thats good to know. I have other p50/51 and P61 series saws. They all use the long blue coil. I only have a used spare. The problem with this saw is the cylinder has the same mount as my p42 and P62 saw. I have spare coils and flywheel for a P42 to try on.
The stud mount on the cylinder of this P50 make me wonder if this saw has been cobbled.
I could use a piston and pin for a P60. Have the cylinder and rings.

 

[P62]

P50???

Heres the scoop on my new P50 ?? Pulled the muffler and checked the depth. Looked like a 2.25 bore piston. Pulled the cylinder. The # on the back of the flywheel is 474645 (P50 flywheel) The # on the bottom of the cylinder cast in is 433233 Its a 2.25 bore, The 2nd fin from the top has been filed back and the fins have cement dust. A used cylinder from a 62-14 Target cement saw most likely. The piston has thin rings( my luck I need one of theses P60) The blue coil that was on the saw was most likely a farmsaw coil. Now to decide on parting out the saw or build a sleeper?? The retired dealer I bought the stuff off mentioned he used to work on saws for a cutting and coring company in Ottawa.

 

[propliner]

Heres the scoop on my new P50 ?? Pulled the muffler and checked the depth. Looked like a 2.25 bore piston. Pulled the cylinder. The # on the back of the flywheel is 474645 (P50 flywheel) The # on the bottom of the cylinder cast in is 433233 Its a 2.25 bore, The 2nd fin from the top has been filed back and the fins have cement dust. A used cylinder from a 62-14 Target cement saw most likely. The piston has thin rings( my luck I need one of theses P60) The blue coil that was on the saw was most likely a farmsaw coil.

Sounds like an accurate diagnosis. I didn't know that the Farmsaw coil could be used with the P50 flywheel.
If the saw had good compression I'd put on a new flywheel, coil and wire and make the ignition new again. It would be a powerful, reliable work saw.
I'm just wondering, has the case been opened up to accept the shouldered jug or is it a flat-bottomed jug?

 

[Busmech]

pioneers

Trying to post pics of my p series, hope this works

 

[cjcocn]

Trying to post pics of my p series, hope this works

That's a nice group of saws!

 

[Busmech]

pioneer offsring

hope this works as well

 

[Arrowhead]

Very nice collection! Give us a break-down on the models.

 

[Arrowhead]

WOW, I was very impressed by the first picture. When I opened the second my jaw about hit the keyboard. Incredible collection!

 

[Busmech]

pioneers

In the first group, 2 P60s, 2 P61s, 1 P51, 1 P40, 1 Farmlite, 2 P41 and 3 P42s

In the second group7 PP655BPs(my favorites), 1 Pioneer partneer P62, 3 PP455s, 5 PIoneer Partner P42s, 1 PP405 and 2 Pioneer Partner P39s

 

[WesternSaw]

Busmech's Saws

Hmmmmm!It's no wonder you don't see many of those here in British Columbia,You must have them all down there.Very nice collection Busmech!
Lawrence

 

[propliner]

Busmech, you've been holding out on us! That's an incredible family of saws, worth a lot of money, too. Do they all run?