Pioneer chainsaws

[Duke Thieroff]

Yes, you do. I recommend the P-40 on up to the P62 models. They're serious pro saws from a better era and are way too much fun to run.

It appears as if you like them.


Given the chance I'm going to get one

CT

 

[Mastermind]

It appears as if you like them.


Given the chance I'm going to get one

CT

They are well made, high quality pro saws. I have a p42 and a p50 and they both start very well, and have tons of torque. The p50 makes me grin every time I start it.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Lets say I know a guy that has a couple p-41's. Lets pretend he may want to fix/restore one up. Any place to get parts like gaskets, rings etc?

 

[propliner]

P40, 41 and 42 are hard to find internal parts for. Come to think of it, ignition parts are rare for the 40 and 41 as well. Gaskets should be easy to find.

 

[Modifiedmark]

P40, 41 and 42 are hard to find internal parts for. Come to think of it, ignition parts are rare for the 40 and 41 as well. Gaskets should be easy to find.

Well this guys P-41 seems to maybe just need crank brgs and seals but gaskets would be good if they could be found. He hates making crankcase gaskets.

 

[CoombsGuy]

Hey you didn't scratch that label off did ya!

Well it would be fine if I did because you should have a replacement all ready for me shouldn't you?!?!?

 

[WesternSaw]

CoombsGuy

Yea Coombs that's a mint looking air filter cover for sure! Glad to here the goats are still there as well. I go to the island a couple of times a year I need to look you and Parris up one day.
Lawrence

 

[CoombsGuy]

Yea Coombs that's a mint looking air filter cover for sure!glad to here the goats are still there as well. I go to the islan a couple of times a year I need to look you and Parris up one day.
Lawrence

Yeah like I said this saw has not seen much use over the years. It spent its whole life travelling in varoius RV's that the family owned, and has probably travelled tens of thousands of Km's.

There is still a 600 there that I need to go pick up. lol

 

[Sprintcar]

Couple Pics. My 655BP should be here next week. I'm still gonna buy that P60.

Jerry

Better start eating my wheaties before that big saw shows up.

 

[Steve NW WI]

Couple Pics. My 655BP should be here next week. I'm still gonna buy that P60.

Jerry

Better start eating my wheaties before that big saw shows up.

I think you'll be pleasantly suprised on the weight. My P60 is just a touch heavier than my Dolmar 7300.

Now if I could just get the SOB to run right. When we last left the saga of getting this thing running right, I was in the middle of a carb rebuild, after replacing fuel filter and lines. Still have a problem with missing/backfiring and dieing, after carb rebuild by amatueur hack (me). I got a puller today and checked the flywheel key as had been suggested, but no luck, it's in good condition.

Tomorrow I'm going to try resetting the coil gap after I put the flywheel back on, get another plug for it, I've tried two, but they were out of the same pack so could in theory be both bad. I tossed the original plug as soon as I got it due to a hatred of Champion plugs, or I'd have put that one back in.

Anything else I need to look into? This thing is starting to tick me off just a touch...

 

[Mastermind]

Couple Pics. My 655BP should be here next week. I'm still gonna buy that P60.

Jerry

Better start eating my wheaties before that big saw shows up.

I got my eye on a p60. If I can get it for a decent price it will fill up my Pioneer line up.

 

[Sprintcar]

How did the magnets on the flywheel look? I've seen them corrode over and still supply enough to idle but would miss and die on throttle up. With as many guys with experience on here, don't include me in that group, most of them have forgotten more about saws than I will ever know, keep working at it, we are bound to figure it out.

Jerry

 

[Mastermind]

How did the magnets on the flywheel look? I've seen them corrode over and still supply enough to idle but would miss and die on throttle up. With as many guys with experience on here, don't include me in that group, most of them have forgotten more about saws than I will ever know, keep working at it, we are bound to figure it out.

Jerry

Are there any cracks in the coil? Or burns were it meets the core?

 

[pioneerguy600]

If everything else checks out then it very well may be the coil, I always try to do the cheap stuff first as the coils are rather rare.

Pioneerguy600

 

[Steve NW WI]

Thanks dudes - magnets don't look bad, but I'll give them a little shot of sandpaper just in case.

I'll also give the coil a thorough once over, I never checked it all that close. Will I have to give a first-born or just miscellaneous small body parts for a coil for this thing?

 

[Sprintcar]

While reading the Pioneer section of my manual it states that the gap from the flywheel magnets to the core should be .025 to .030 for both the P50's and P60's. About the same thickness of two business cards. Clean both the magnets and the core gently with a piece of emery cloth and see how she runs.

Jerry

 

[Steve NW WI]

While reading the Pioneer section of my manual it states that the gap from the flywheel magnets to the core should be .025 to .030 for both the P50's and P60's. About the same thickness of two business cards. Clean both the magnets and the core gently with a piece of emery cloth and see how she runs.

Jerry

Hmmm, might just be a winner. I regapped it before with no specs, just went by the normal .015 or so that most used, just used the flap of a chain box, just could be the culprit.

FIGT³ (F... It - Going To The Tavern)! Will check things out tomorrow.

 

[Sprintcar]

Hmmm, might just be a winner. I regapped it before with no specs, just went by the normal .015 or so that most used, just used the flap of a chain box, just could be the culprit.

FIGT³ (F... It - Going To The Tavern)! Will check things out tomorrow.

Have one for Jerry, Jerry and Randy.

 

[pioneerguy600]

The coil air gap would work set between .010 - .030 , the difference in timing would not be noticable and if all other components are in good shape then the engine would operate with no noticable conditions. I have seen air gap on them as close to rubbing and all the way out around .040 and the saws were still running fine, I always reset them to .025 just to keep them stock. Even when I run them one half key width advanced they have no issues with spark.

Pioneerguy600

 

[StephieDoll]

Sprintcar,
Those are some nice looking saws. I guess I am still in 1st grade. Be nice to see them someday.

Cheers