Pioneer chainsaws

[DSS]

It was suggested to me by another sawyer that a .058 bar can be made into a .063 by grinding the groove with a .063 width grinding wheel, thus making it easier to find chains to fit. Anyone ever try this?:msp_confused: Looks like there are some .063 die grinder wheels out there.

It's possible, but I'm not sure what kind of accuracy you'd get with a die grinder. If you could find a shop with the proper machine they could do it for you. I have a bunch of .058 gauge bars and have no trouble finding chain. Seems to be very common.

You'd also have to change the tip. Is it a replaceable sprocket nose?

 

[pioneerguy600]

It's possible, but I'm not sure what kind of accuracy you'd get with a die grinder. If you could find a shop with the proper machine they could do it for you. I have a bunch of .058 gauge bars and have no trouble finding chain. Seems to be very common.

You'd also have to change the tip. Is it a replaceable sprocket nose?

The tip would be ok as they are not gauge specific, the sprocket is actually slotted to allow for .063 when new but the sprocket would have to be removed to cut the slot out all the way to the tip. It could easily be done on a barshop machine but there is no scarcity of ,058 gauge chain out there, Husqvarna uses plenty of it.

 

[DSS]

The tip would be ok as they are not gauge specific, the sprocket is actually slotted to allow for .063 when new but the sprocket would have to be removed to cut the slot out all the way to the tip. It could easily be done on a barshop machine but there is no scarcity of ,058 gauge chain out there, Husqvarna uses plenty of it.

Yes, I was at the Husky dealer on thursday, all they have is .058 and I was looking for .050.

 

[timberdollars]

58 gauge

It was suggested to me by another sawyer that a .058 bar can be made into a .063 by grinding the groove with a .063 width grinding wheel, thus making it easier to find chains to fit. Anyone ever try this?:msp_confused: Looks like there are some .063 die grinder wheels out there.

I know your issue out here in Wa no one carries .058, internet only!! I just run .050 in all my .058 bars, never an issue if bars good.

Duane

 

[pioneerguy600]

Yes, I was at the Husky dealer on thursday, all they have is .058 and I was looking for .050.

I guess I`m spoiled, I buy rolls of chain and make my own.

 

[DSS]

I guess I`m spoiled, I buy rolls of chain and make my own.

And I'm going to be doing that very shortly as well. Enough is enough. I wouldn't even admit what they want for a 84 DL chain over here.

 

[pioneerguy600]

And I'm going to be doing that very shortly as well. Enough is enough. I wouldn't even admit what they want for a 84 DL chain over here.

Yeah,..I know pre cut chain or loops as some call them are pricy and I run all Stihl chain, .404, .375 and .325. in all gauges.

 

[hillwilliam]

Ok picked up a 455 Boost Port (third port) Piston/cylinder for $80.00, then another for $50.00 so decided to switch both my pp405s to 455. Before starting I tried everything to get power outta my 405 boost port saw with no results. My other non boost port saw and P42 both have TONS of power the boost port one is a complete DOG!!!!
I KNOW WHY NOW!!! this has been a learning experience I never imagined. the 405 boost ports are covered, there is NO cut out in the case for them, completely COVERED!!!! and the other two normal ports are VERY VERY small compared to all Pioneer P series. Or any saw for that matter!! I checked my 455 parts saw with boost port and SAME!!!!! no case cut out. WTF!!!!! I know they tried to increase velocity and turbulence with smaller ports but again WTF!!!!

THERES a cut out now!!!! and I lowered the boost port cut on the cylinder while porting.

The 405 boost port cylinder is marked 50zn7 denoting 50mm 455 size but its not, its still the INCH size 1.875 P41/42

I have pictures of a new 455 boost port, then it ported. Please note: smaller ports on the NOS 455 than pictured P42 western.

Also note the UPDATED improved con rod compared to the old Pioneers.

Duane

Been way too busy the last few days to even check AS. The grinding on the case looks very good. How are they running now?

Hillwilliam

 

[Big Dan]

piston rings

I need rings for a Farmsaw and am wondering if the P40,P41 and P42 all used the same rings as the Farmsaw. Thanks, Dan

 

[timberdollars]

Farmsaw

I need rings for a Farmsaw and am wondering if the P40,P41 and P42 all used the same rings as the Farmsaw. Thanks, Dan

Depends on if you have Thin rings or Thick rings, one or two of them. Farmsaws can be a bit tricky. Thins would be the same!!! also Poulan 405 thins.

Others will fill you in more I'm sure!!

Duane

 

[Lou]

I need rings for a Farmsaw and am wondering if the P40,P41 and P42 all used the same rings as the Farmsaw. Thanks, Dan

Pioneer pn 473961 (for my saw, set so I suppose thins) NLA.
Poulan/weedeater pn 507473961 Poulan PISTON RING SET P41 507473961 9.82 plus shipping @ jackssmallengines.

 

[Lou]

Jerry often comes up with rings you can order from a local auto parts store. He will to need to know if 1 or 2 rings.
Lou

 

[DSS]

I let some of the boys out for a little sun today.

 

[DSS]

P-62, P-28, P-41,on the bottom is a P-50 and a P-21.

 

[tbone75]

I see you got my saw out Chris! :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[pioneerguy600]

P-62, P-28, P-41,on the bottom is a P-50 and a P-21.

Some mighty nice Yellow and Green you have there, nice to see them out catching some sun on a clear day like that.

 

[DSS]

I see you got my saw out Chris! :hmm3grin2orange:

I'm going to see my lawyer John. I'll leave it to you in my will if I kick the bucket.

 

[tbone75]

I'm going to see my lawyer John. I'll leave it to you in my will if I kick the bucket.

Thanks Chris! But I could use it now!

 

[DSS]

Thanks Chris! But I could use it now!

:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

Greedy bastard.

 

[tbone75]

:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

Greedy bastard.

:hmm3grin2orange: Yep :hmm3grin2orange: