Sure is quiet in here....do I need to start a fight?

[Stihl 041S]

I prefer to knock their horns off, wipe their a$$ and put them on a plate. A good steak was made to be rare.

I knew I liked this lad!!!!!!

Hey Jim!!!!

 

[IEL]

I have cleaned up many hundreds of saws just like that, there is no best way that I am aware of. I use varsol in the parts washer with brushes of many shapes and stiffness. Plastic scrapers and popsicle sticks and even pointed sticks come handy to clean folds and crevices. A spray over of engine degreaser and after sitting for a while I spray them off with my air powered water sprayer to get the outside covers cleaned off. Then take all the covers off and do the inside surfaces.

My favourite so far is a spray bottle full of gasoline. Just spray it on, and keep spraying until it all runs off. Works just like non chlorinated brake cleaner, but far cheaper. Never used the chlorinated stuff? One of the guys I bought tools from threw in a half can of the stuff. Nothing else to use it for, might as well test it on a saw. Could be real good for tight corners? Too pricey to use for the whole thing...

 

[tbone75]

I prefer to knock their horns off, wipe their a$$ and put them on a plate. A good steak was made to be rare.

Sick Sick Sick !!!!!!

 

[BigDaddyR]

Cool Big tree facts

http://forestry.about.com/od/treephysiology/tp/giant_trees.htm

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Sent on the fly.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Early to bed........

Back to da top.

 

[dancan]

Early to rise ....

 

[Cantdog]

MMmmmmHmmm.....

 

[roncoinc]

scritch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, scritch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, scratch..............................

YAAAWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

mumble,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,grumble.......................

 

[jimdad07]

Morning guys. Looks like it might be a nice day, of course I woke up so it must be good so far.

 

[Cantdog]

Well....as I said I've been working on my boat the last couple weekends.....took most of last weekend to get the old motor out.....had it already to pull except for two bolts in about 45 mins........those two bolts took 5 1/2 hrs to remove....and two separate episodes....had to stop and walk away for a while...LOL!! Two rear motor mount bolts...6" long and 1/2" dia. There are 2 rubber mounts with large aluminum bushings in the bellhousing.... these bolts pass through them and down through the inner transom mount to two captured nuts......started out with 90 lbs of air and my heaviest impact gun.....stopped that when I got to 175 psi live air straight from the T-30...about rattled my teeth out but didn't phase those suckers in the least.......so went to plan "B" which involved unbolting the motor from the bellhousing and lifting that away.....then removed the steering slave so I could get at the bolts better.....lots of weasel pizz.....hammering...nope......so I sawzalled the heads off both bolts..thinking I could drive the bolts down.....nope....nutz were captured vertically and horizontally ......Got mad went home...drank beer.....and plotted.....

Next day I arrived at the shop fresh and full of enthusiasm. The issue was that these bolts passed through 3" deep aluminum bushings inside the rubber mounts and had frozen solid due to corrosion. The rubber was absorbing all the impact and twist........and the alum had "grown" inward and really captured the steel bolts.....so plan "C"......I decided to drill the bolts out.....so grabbing a handful of drills (Thanks Uncle Rob) and my grinder and center punch I went aboard.....this all went quite well until my wimpy 3/8' drill motor would not handle the bits above 3/8".....so the next step up in drill size was to my Hole Hawg......which can either be a very, very nice drill rig or a terribly abusive piece of equipment.....one hole went well and cast free fairly early...I had the bellhousing hooked with a lifting strap (Thanks Uncle Rob) to the overhead bridge crane and enough strain to take the boat trailer up to the end of its suspension. The other hole went poorly, partially due to the fact it was a much harder place to get into and control the drill.....so needless to say I ended up breaking a 1/2" dril bit off down in the hole.....I said all the bad words I knew and some never spoken before in a never ending stream until I ran completely out of air.....

After that I went right "Pitbull" on that thing....I pounded the broken drill bit to dust with a long punch and then took a 3/16" drill and drilled down through the alum bushing all the way around the mangled bolt until there was nothing left........stihl stuck....That's when I got real "Pitbullish"....I picked the boat off the trailer with the crane and with both feet in the bottom of the bellhousing and wailing on that bolt with my biggest ball peen and a stout punch...and shakin' the chit out of the chain hoist...swearing a blue streak all the while....she finally gave it up with a soft little "pop".....I then pulled a RON and threw that bellhousing out over the windshield, out the large swinging doors and into the driveway almost to the road.........panting, I looked back at the transom mount and the two short mangled nubs sticking up out of the mount.......great!! now I'll probably have to weld acouple nuts to that mess just to get the bolts in the captured nuts started.....but no the bolts backed right out the SS lock nuts with a pair of pliers....

A few pics of the old motor coming out and the "carnage" on the blue shop rag.........LOL!!

 

[Cantdog]

New motor.......LOL!!!!!

 

[roncoinc]

Robin,,weight of the bell housing and distance please..

 

[Cantdog]

Aluminum.....I'd say 20 lbs maybe......distance.... probably 40 feet total..... but I was elevated in the boat..probably 10 feet up.....flew good....like a discus......@#^!ing thing......!!!!

 

[roncoinc]

Aluminum.....I'd say 20 lbs maybe......distance.... probably 40 feet total..... but I was elevated in the boat..probably 10 feet up.....flew good....like a discus......@#^!ing thing......!!!!

Dang !! better than i can do with a squeel !!

 

[AU_K2500]

Atta boy Robin! Glad you managed to get it all cleared out. That mercruiser will look good sitting down in there.

 

[roncoinc]

Been trying to sort out just what this pioneer 400 is.

89cc and looks to be the first in a series of basically all the same saw.
400 1958 -59
400A 1959
410 60-61
NU17 61-64
450 64-68
550 64-68 ported version.
All 89cc and all like a top handle.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Well....as I said I've been working on my boat the last couple weekends.....took most of last weekend to get the old motor out.....had it already to pull except for two bolts in about 45 mins........those two bolts took 5 1/2 hrs to remove....and two separate episodes....had to stop and walk away for a while...LOL!! Two rear motor mount bolts...6" long and 1/2" dia. There are 2 rubber mounts with large aluminum bushings in the bellhousing.... these bolts pass through them and down through the inner transom mount to two captured nuts......started out with 90 lbs of air and my heaviest impact gun.....stopped that when I got to 175 psi live air straight from the T-30...about rattled my teeth out but didn't phase those suckers in the least.......so went to plan "B" which involved unbolting the motor from the bellhousing and lifting that away.....then removed the steering slave so I could get at the bolts better.....lots of weasel pizz.....hammering...nope......so I sawzalled the heads off both bolts..thinking I could drive the bolts down.....nope....nutz were captured vertically and horizontally ......Got mad went home...drank beer.....and plotted.....

Next day I arrived at the shop fresh and full of enthusiasm. The issue was that these bolts passed through 3" deep aluminum bushings inside the rubber mounts and had frozen solid due to corrosion. The rubber was absorbing all the impact and twist........and the alum had "grown" inward and really captured the steel bolts.....so plan "C"......I decided to drill the bolts out.....so grabbing a handful of drills (Thanks Uncle Rob) and my grinder and center punch I went aboard.....this all went quite well until my wimpy 3/8' drill motor would not handle the bits above 3/8".....so the next step up in drill size was to my Hole Hawg......which can either be a very, very nice drill rig or a terribly abusive piece of equipment.....one hole went well and cast free fairly early...I had the bellhousing hooked with a lifting strap (Thanks Uncle Rob) to the overhead bridge crane and enough strain to take the boat trailer up to the end of its suspension. The other hole went poorly, partially due to the fact it was a much harder place to get into and control the drill.....so needless to say I ended up breaking a 1/2" dril bit off down in the hole.....I said all the bad words I knew and some never spoken before in a never ending stream until I ran completely out of air.....

After that I went right "Pitbull" on that thing....I pounded the broken drill bit to dust with a long punch and then took a 3/16" drill and drilled down through the alum bushing all the way around the mangled bolt until there was nothing left........stihl stuck....That's when I got real "Pitbullish"....I picked the boat off the trailer with the crane and with both feet in the bottom of the bellhousing and wailing on that bolt with my biggest ball peen and a stout punch...and shakin' the chit out of the chain hoist...swearing a blue streak all the while....she finally gave it up with a soft little "pop".....I then pulled a RON and threw that bellhousing out over the windshield, out the large swinging doors and into the driveway almost to the road.........panting, I looked back at the transom mount and the two short mangled nubs sticking up out of the mount.......great!! now I'll probably have to weld acouple nuts to that mess just to get the bolts in the captured nuts started.....but no the bolts backed right out the SS lock nuts with a pair of pliers....

A few pics of the old motor coming out and the "carnage" on the blue shop rag.........LOL!!

AAAAAHHHHHHH, The joys of a marine mechanic.................................NONE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pioneerguy600]

Been trying to sort out just what this pioneer 400 is.

89cc and looks to be the first in a series of basically all the same saw.
400 1958 -59
400A 1959
410 60-61
NU17 61-64
450 64-68
550 64-68 ported version.
All 89cc and all like a top handle.

Pioneer 450

 

[pioneerguy600]

Cool Big tree facts

Giant Trees - Tallest, Oldest, Heaviest and Most Massive Trees

Time


Sent on the fly.

A very interesting read,..thanks for posting.

 

[tbone75]

Robin that was one he!! of a mess getting that motor out ! Salt water is so hard on any metal ! It should go back in much easier ? LOL