the all aussie dribble thread!

[heimannm]

I will be in the Gold Coast area on Saturday with nothing lined up, anyone near by?

Mark

 

[tdi-rick]

Matt, what .222 do you have. I started to read an old book that my father owned, called "The Accurate Rifle" it seems that this calibure was really designed for accuracy and was the top match shooting rifle for the time....

Serg, back in the day (and long before my time ) the .222 was used as the Bench Rest round before the PPC rounds came along.

It's an inherently accurate round, it's just that the 223/5.56mm round is ex-military and that helped popularise it, to the detriment of the 222.
It doesn't hurt the 223 that it holds a few more grains of powder either, so it gets a little more muzzle velocity. (the shoulder is pushed further forward, shortening the neck and increasing the case capacity of the .223, but I believe it's that longer neck that helps with the accuracy of the 222)

Speed sells, but it still isn't as accurate as a 222.

[edit] Geez, you all beat me to it. Must be getting old

 

[tdi-rick]

I will be in the Gold Coast area on Saturday with nothing lined up, anyone near by?

Mark

I'm eight hours away, sorry Mark.

How many more Mc's are you going to liberate this trip ?

 

[MCW]

Serg, back in the day (and long before my time ) the .222 was used as the Bench Rest round before the PPC rounds came along.

It's an inherently accurate round, it's just that the 223/5.56mm round is ex-military and that helped popularise it, to the detriment of the 222.
It doesn't hurt the 223 that it holds a few more grains of powder either, so it gets a little more muzzle velocity. (the shoulder is pushed further forward, shortening the neck and increasing the case capacity of the .223, but I believe it's that longer neck that helps with the accuracy of the 222)

Speed sells, but it still isn't as accurate as a 222.

Spot on Rick. The average .223 also has a faster twist rate (1:9) as well giving it the ability to stabilise some of the longer VLD projectiles now too. The .223's popularity has also increased as a number of tactical style rifles come chambered in it. What cracks me up is that for some reason the average punter thinks a black synthetic stocked tactical style .223 will outshoot a bog stock Tikka T3 for example. It won't but many people associate the term "tactical" with accuracy. A lot of the manufacturers put a black synthetic stock on a standard rifle with a varmint style barrel and just stick the "tactical" term on it. It seems to convince many of those teenage Rambo types though In the field there really is nothing in it though and anything over 55gn is starting to test a .222/.223 anyway.

 

[MCW]

Also your inbox is full Serg

 

[husq2100]

I will be in the Gold Coast area on Saturday with nothing lined up, anyone near by?

Mark

Mark, Ill be working. Is there anything you are looking to do? are you staying here or just pasing through. And no, I dont own any mac's haha .....only Huksies ......21oos mostly

 

[tdi-rick]

Spot on Rick. The average .223 also has a faster twist rate (1:9) as well giving it the ability to stabilise some of the longer VLD projectiles now too. The .223's popularity has also increased as a number of tactical style rifles come chambered in it. What cracks me up is that for some reason the average punter thinks a black synthetic stocked tactical style .223 will outshoot a bog stock Tikka T3 for example. It won't but many people associate the term "tactical" with accuracy. A lot of the manufacturers put a black synthetic stock on a standard rifle with a varmint style barrel and just stick the "tactical" term on it. It seems to convince many of those teenage Rambo types though In the field there really is nothing in it though and anything over 55gn is starting to test a .222/.223 anyway.

Yep.
Matt, if my memory hasn't totally failed, most early bolt action 223's had conventional twist rate barrels (12:1 ?) but the mil stuff, particularly when they went with the steel cored SS109 62g round demanded really high twist rates to stabilise the long and unbalanced bullet, so the market demanded the manufacturers do the same thing.








Damn, that crap was stuffed inside my grey squidgy stuff over 25 years ago.
It's still there :msp_mellow:

Why can't I remember anything important ?

 

[ausneil 1]

evening gents, whats tonights subject

 

[husq2100]

Also your inbox is full Serg

thanks will sort now.....there is a first time for everything I guess haha

 

[MCW]

Yep.
Matt, if my memory hasn't totally failed, most early bolt action 223's had conventional twist rate barrels (12:1 ?) but the mil stuff, particularly when they went with the steel cored SS109 62g round demanded really high twist rates to stabilise the long and unbalanced bullet, so the market demanded the manufacturers do the same thing.
Damn, that crap was stuffed inside my grey squidgy stuff over 25 years ago.
It's still there :msp_mellow:

Why can't I remember anything important ?

Hah hah you're like me mate! Most of the earlier .224" barrels were 1:14 but struggled to stabilise anything over 60gn - of course in something like a .220 Swift or .22/250 etc you could simply push them faster which helped overcome instability to some extent (more rpm's). When I rebarrelled my .22/250 to .22/250 40° Ackley I went with a 27" Kreiger and 1:12 barrel. In hindsight I should have gone for something like 1:10 but not a biggy. I don't plan on running anything over 55gn through it and it's accurate enough as it is. Both of my 25/06's have 1:10 barrels and neither will stabilise the 117gn Hornady SST projies. Lucky I bought a few hundred before I worked this out 3-4" groups at 100m is all they'll manage out of either rifle.

evening gents, whats tonights subject

Not much Neil. We were just discussing how awesome you are and how you must be a good bloke running Huskies. Some of the, ahem, STIHL brigade disagreed.

 

[Aussie Dave]

evening gents, whats tonights subject

Not sure Mate.Ive been studying the UFO in Matts pics.He wouldnt have noticed,to busy getting his mug in the pics.....or was it the moon nah UFO sounds better :msp_scared:

 

[MCW]

Not sure Mate.Ive been studying the UFO in Matts pics.He wouldnt have noticed,to busy getting his mug in the pics.....or was it the moon nah UFO sounds better :msp_scared:

Unidentified Flatulating Orifice?

How bloody rude Dave...

 

[ausneil 1]

I think Neil's just lazy ............................

dammmmmm, your good !!!!!!! no one else has picked that up yet.:redface:


edit,,,,, well matt while the superior stihl boys are laughing at me their leaving everyone else alone...:msp_biggrin:

edit 2,,,,, sorry to change your subject guys but i,m not sure how many of you know jason egan (the bushweasel), log faller and race saw competitor from the states. He was badly hurt a few of days ago in a falling accident, his face is badly damaged and will take some time to heal, i'm not sure of all the details yet as i only found out tonight. He is a decent bloke and i feel for him and his family.

 

[MCW]

dammmmmm, your good !!!!!!! no one else has picked that up yet.:redface:

Yeah those 80 hour weeks really show your laziness Neil. Up your game old son, you're nothing short of a bludger...

 

[ausneil 1]

ooh, ooh, square chain show and tell

Here's some old photo's of my first, part finished effort.
Still needed thinning and smoothing after this, and when Neil saw it he informed me I didn't need the dog boning in our timber. Not doing that saves a hell of a lot of work.

Thats the go rick, it takes balls to put up pics of hand filed chain, as we well know the experts will shoot your work to bits.....
BUT MOST WON"T SHOW THEIRS.....

 

[MCW]

Thats the go rick, it takes balls to put up pics of hand filed chain, as we well know the experts will shoot your work to bits.....
BUT MOST WON"T SHOW THEIRS.....

Here is mine It raced it's way into an embedded steel post in a Tasmanian Stringybark.
It's racing days ended before they even begun although hand filed square "may" have chewed through the post before snapping the cutter. One will never know...

I agree though Neil. Ubér (German for ultra awesome) online experts are rife...
Anyway, get back to work you lazy bastard. You don't have time for idle **** chat...

 

[tdi-rick]

Here is mine It raced it's way into an embedded steel post in a Tasmanian Stringybark.
It's racing days ended before they even begun although hand filed square "may" have chewed through the post before snapping the cutter. One will never know...

I agree though Neil. Ubér (German for ultra awesome) online experts are rife...
Anyway, get back to work you lazy bastard. You don't have time for idle **** chat...

Matt, that looks FAST

 

[MCW]

You don't have time to "like" my post Neil. Back to it old son. Chop chop...

Oh by the way, have you had a look at that .058" Carlton full chisel yet mate? Also can you or Will use any 17" Husky mount 3/8" .050" GB Pro Top bars in your comps? I can get you the chain to suit too.

 

[MCW]

Matt, that looks FAST

It was cutting sooooo fast Rick it didn't even stop my 3120. It just decided to wreck a new chain instead...

 

[Rudolf73]

What are the angles on a square filed chain...? They seem quite different to a regular chain. I might try and file one sometime :glasses-nerdy: