The Diary of a Chain Builder

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Seth, no problem, beverages are on their way.
Here's another video of the same set up with regards to the wood and saw as the previous video, however, I made a few more changes to the chain, such as take off the edges of the straps and contoured the sides of the gullets. After a half hearted attempt at stoning the cutters with a finger nail file, I may have done more harm than good.
John

 

[Bernard]

What do you stone your chains with Gypo logger?
Bernie

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Bernard, I tried it last night with a fingernail file, but I don't think it helped, but all is not lost, I built another chain today and did some different stuff.
I talked to Dennis last night and he gave me some ideas about stoning, so I will try it when I get the right stone.
Anyway, if it wasn't dark out I would try my new chain, it's a 72LG where I concentrated on the chip channel . My sideplate seems to be only about 1 degree forward now, I hope it still cuts though.
John

 

[tony marks]

i assuming that u cant ship that hopped up fuel..sure would like to have a can of souped up wood saw fuel. fer when i want to show off. course if i got it now ,it be stale before i got to use it.. [shoulder operation on the 18th.] dont know how long itll be,, before im cookin again.

 

[ehp]

Tony i will not ship fuel over the border , but i have alot of guys up here from the usa so i just give it to them and they ship it when they get back in th usa,easy

 

[Gypo Logger]

Here's my new barbwire. I don't think I gave the chain a fair chance though, because the chain was a bit tight in the only 16" big mount 50 thou. bar I had, but the chain was a worn 58 and so was the bar. The wood was 14" X 16" Basswood inside bark.
So as you can see, it's hard to get good help over the phone. The saw is my 385KD. Ken can you drop up and dress my grinder wheel and stone my cutters?
John

 

[Hatchet Jack]

I've seen on here some of these yahoos use the small lapper stone. If thats what you use Gypo logger I'll stomp your chains. Here's what i use. Fred

 

[Hatchet Jack]

The new one is 12" and the old stone is a 8"er. Everybody must get stoned! Fred

 

[ehp]

yes i think gypo is in need of a stone forsure, the one i use ,i can do 3 teeth at a time so when i am done it cuts smooth as long as i keep the flat file away from the rackers, come on now just 2 more strokes and then we are really logging

 

[Hatchet Jack]

Hi ehp If Gypo logger rakers with his fingernail file he'll be ok. When he learns how to stone one then he might make the top ten. Fred

 

[ehp]

sorry i cannot even come close to thinking of using a nail file to stone the teeth, sorry i guess i am not from the same planet as gypo

 

[sedanman]

Here we go again! A guy with a low post count comes on here and wants to start a fight. Gypo Logger a.k.a John Lambert is the worldwide ambassador for logging. I have NEVER heard him utter an un-kind word that was not obvuiosly tounge-in-cheek. He only recently started making race chains and since he was proud of his early success he started this thread. Now all of the sudden, he is on trial for not being one of the top ten chainfilerd in the world!? Get a grip! This is all about fun, when it stops being fun, I'lll stop playing. Another member here is making me 2 race chains and I am having a roller nose belly bar made to run on a saw that only has modified muffler. This is all my budget will allow for now. If this makes me happy that's all that matters. If my racing efferts only ever elevate me to the status of "also ran, " so be it. If Gypo is having fun with the chains he made, more power to him. If he never beomes the wolds greatest chain filer, so what? On any given day any race operation can be blindsided by the under-dog as evidenced by the running of the Kentucky Derby. Just because you may have the best chain or the most power , success is not guaranteed.

 

[Hatchet Jack]

Get a grip? Tounge and cheek works both ways Sedanman. No fighting from me. I just showed him the best stone to use in a teazing way. That's how Gypo plays the game here so excuse me! Fred

 

[Gypo Logger]

Oh ya, I'm on it. Leaving now for Busy Bee Tool and Machine, a huge tool and die makers store, so will get some stones and stuff there.
This just doesn't cut it Fred.
John

 

[ehp]

Ya , so there hacker jack stop picking on our gypo, you mayhurt his feelings , he is a nice guy just ask Susie, she will tell you .
I heard that gypo went to Lee Valley store and ordered a honing stone 24 inches long so here can now do the full lenght at once
Hacker i tried to phone you last night but the ???? line was busy everytime , i guess you were busy phoning other filers trying to get all the secrets you can but remember gypo phoned them all to so you may end up in a tie

 

[Hatchet Jack]

I guess i better get my post count up or stop treatin Gypo logger like an Iraqi prisoner. He'll get the real shock treatment when he stones a chain with the right tool. Fred

 

[Bernard]

Gypo logger, did you get my emails? Are my chains getting worked on? Like I said, I need them before the 4th of July. I sent you the jing so don't let me down.
Bernie

 

[Gypo Logger]

Hi Fred, thanks for helping me out with my stoning, I think I got it now, although I'm dumber than a sack of hammers.
Bernard, I got the green yesterday, thanks. So the chains are shaping up and you should have them next week, if they don't cut then just take the bar thickness down about 20 thou. and you should be logging.
Bernard, I just twigged to who you are, you are Meatloaf from Pauls show in Oroville last Sept. Thanks for letting me try out your saws there. Have you seen Phil lately?
Baldo

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Hey, why don't you stoners (hehe) post a picture of your technique stoning?
I see your fancy stones (hehe), and I see your fast cutting barbed wire, but show me how you rub the stone on the cutter.

 

[kent0242]

Dumb Question?!?!?!

As most of you know, I'm a newbie to this site .... so here goes with another question along the lines of race chain vs. working chain.

The race chain is ground/filed to certain angles in order to pull the quickest chip.

A working chain is ground differently, but besides the difference in round grind vs. square grind, when cutting wood all day, which one cuts more wood before needing to be dressed?

Do the race chains have a more radical angle and therefore do not keep an edge for long? Perhaps a working chain has less of an angle, but also keeps an edge for a longer period of time?

Having been around metal machining, I understand that the more radical angle on a drill bit will allow rapid feed in soft materials, but in a harder material, a blunt nose works better with less feed.