Whats the hardest wood you ever cut?

[Slamm]

Is my reading comprehension down, or where is the Osage Orange or Hedge on this chart.

Is it correct in assuming or thinking that east of the Rockies is where the majority of marketable timber that is hard to deal with, is located? Or am I reading that incorrectly?

Thanks,

Sam

 

[tdi-rick]

It also misses about 700 other species of Eucs, but it's OK, probably only fifty would be used commercially

I'm guessing the most common plantation timber here is Pinus Radiata, it's the most common framing timber in this part of the world but I notice it isn't on that list either.

I have a bunch of hardness/density lists and I've posted a few in the past but the formatting falls apart when I try and post.

 

[Freehand]

It is difficult to find any mention of osage or mesquite on any wood table.Generally neither are considered a cabinet grade wood because of their growth habits.Osage does have a quite high specific gravity and is no slouch.The aussie numbers are impressive,comparatively.

 

[tdi-rick]

It is difficult to find any mention of osage or mesquite on any wood table.Generally neither are considered a cabinet grade wood because of their growth habits.Osage does have a quite high specific gravity and is no slouch.The aussie numbers are impressive,comparatively.

and they're on the softer end of the scale for Eucs.

 

[Freehand]

It also misses about 700 other species of Eucs, but it's OK, probably only fifty would be used commercially

I'm guessing the most common plantation timber here is Pinus Radiata, it's the most common framing timber in this part of the world but I notice it isn't on that list either.

I have a bunch of hardness/density lists and I've posted a few in the past but the formatting falls apart when I try and post.

No doubt Rick, the compiled list are usually confined to a single hemisphere.This topic does come up from time to time,and it comes down to specific gravity usually.Although specific gravity doesn't tell the whole story.Likely the hardest wood is what ever Joe homeowner is cutting that particular weekend

 

[Slamm]

I'm just trying to get a idea on the difficulty of the various timber, more or less to get an idea of this Douglas Fir that the Left Coasters try to tout as so hard and difficult to cut, and by god you better have some 6+ cube saw to get through it, when it appears to be similiar to our silver maple, and not even in the same league as several other trees that we cut in bulk. Their trees are bigger, obviously, but harder on average ...... no. I mean in Wisconsin you can go for weeks and cut nothing but sugar maple, red oak and shagbark hickory ................ that is one horrible line up, the red oak being the nicer of the three.

Around here my most favorite tree to cut is the tulip poplar, those are what I envision cutting on the left coast is like. Big, soft and straight, Oh the joys of days full of nothing but poplar trees, those days are very few.

Sam

 

[mountainlake]

Good job Freehand, around here dried out white oak or ironwood. There may be harder woods but they sure cut a LOT harder when dry, both on the mill and with a saw. Steve

 

[Freehand]

It also misses about 700 other species of Eucs, but it's OK, probably only fifty would be used commercially

I'm guessing the most common plantation timber here is Pinus Radiata, it's the most common framing timber in this part of the world but I notice it isn't on that list either.

I have a bunch of hardness/density lists and I've posted a few in the past but the formatting falls apart when I try and post.

We know this one commonly as Monterey Pine,native to central california and the most widely cultivated pine in the world.

In the southeastern US the most common cultivars of pine are Slash, Loblolly, and Longleaf.

It is a beech to format the tables.You'll notice I didn't spend a whole lot of time on that one

 

[paccity]

I'm just trying to get a idea on the difficulty of the various timber, more or less to get an idea of this Douglas Fir that the Left Coasters try to tout as so hard and difficult to cut, and by god you better have some 6+ cube saw to get through it, when it appears to be similiar to our silver maple, and not even in the same league as several other trees that we cut in bulk. Their trees are bigger, obviously, but harder on average ...... no. I mean in Wisconsin you can go for weeks and cut nothing but sugar maple, red oak and shagbark hickory ................ that is one horrible line up, the red oak being the nicer of the three.

Around here my most favorite tree to cut is the tulip poplar, those are what I envision cutting on the left coast is like. Big, soft and straight, Oh the joys of days full of nothing but poplar trees, those days are very few.

Sam

otstir: enjoy.:msp_wink:

 

[Freehand]

 

[tdi-rick]

I've been searching for the lists I've posted and been sidetracked by some great threads like a race chain one where you have the likes TW, Redprospector/Andy and even Gypo posting.

I'll dig 'em up tonight, I've gotta get some sort of work done today.
The boss is an arse and won't even sack me :monkey:

 

[AUSSIE1]

Likely more nourishing than a big mack!

 

[AUSSIE1]

hows the trip going?

I was using the AusGrass disc quite a bit in the last month or two but could not crack it.

The trip is done and dusted Dave. I got through unscathed, but a couple didn't.

Exactly the same here. My missus has packed the bloody disc somewhere and can't remember where...
I can't find the key either and I'm the original disc owner! We're all in trouble...

How bout that lovely nice talented Landrover driver?

I would like to try and identify a species 40k's south of Ivanhoe NSW. Very dense, hard wood. Burnt through the night easily on the camp fire.

 

[AUSSIE1]

Ok, this is what we used on the camp fire. We cut this with a hand saw. This piece is approx 8-10 inches in dia and was still burning when I got up in the morning.

Blackbox - Eucalyptus Largiflorens.

 

[Rudolf73]

Ok, this is what we used on the camp fire. We cut this with a hand saw. This piece is approx 8-10 inches in dia and was still burning when I got up in the morning.

Blackbox - Eucalyptus Largiflorens.

What kind of hand saw did you use Al? And I think you definitely need a motorized saw attached to the beemer somewhere - would come in handy

 

[tdi-rick]

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How bout that lovely nice talented Landrover driver?

[snip]

Some tall, dark and handsome fella posted on the dribble thread he had a key (just so he wouldn't continue to clog this thread)

Oh, and he's modest too

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Aussie1, that Blackbox look's like a bad dream! Sam-Slamm. Don't think anybody is saying doug fir is the hardest they have cut, just that it will test a saw. You pull bigger chips, and it will bog a saw. To do production work in douglas fir it would be wise to have a 6 cube saw. Even 2 foot plus fir I will grab the 660, or 2101. Its not a macho thing here in timberland home of the big tree's. The faster you get through the wood the sooner you get done, and yes the girth can take large bar's. We have different need's here that's all. But a good test for a saw would be a run in doug fir. Eucalpytus, and some black walnut has been the hardest I have cut.

 

[Opihi59]

Long standing dead Hawaiian Ironwood is very difficult stuff to cut, it's very hard on a saw. I'm fighting with that stuff now, have dropped 11 and 3 more to go. I've had it throw sparks. The cut ends end up somehow looking polished rather than cut. I've cut standing dead Koolibah (that's eucalyptus to most of the world--look up the lyrics to "Waltzing Matilda") and it cut way easier than Ironwood. I've burned Ironwood logs that I could not get to go out with tons of water. Somehow it retains the heat internally like coal, and it re-ignites after a while. I feel the Ironwood is harder to cut than Keawe (Kee Ah Vay) which is the Hawaiian version of Mesquite, also an acacia family.

Never tried to cut Ebony, maybe next time I get to Ethopia.

 

[NORMZILLA44]

The name would make sense. I have heard of Ironwood alwya's heard it was tough shiat!

 

[Opihi59]

Ironwood (Casuarina equisetifolia): The Pine Tree

Info on Haw'n Ironwood.