Which Klotz?

[RiverRat2]

How do you guys think Stihl ultra compares to say the Maxima K2, or Belray H1R?

Ive just always run ultra cause its good oil and easy to get,

Stihl did their home work on the Ultra,,, it works extremely well in their 4 mix moto application due to the excellent luricity, clean burn, with less carbon,,, it also mixes and stays mixed better in the ethanol laced fuels that are common today,, I say it is right there with the others u mention

$$500!!, Id probably do it, thats alot of extra Beer money lol.

Really, Ive never herd of nothing bad with the Saber, and several swear by it.:smile2:

I know Parrisw (AKA Will) from BC swears buy it the Amsoil,, I've been using the Ultra for the last few years, cause I got a gallon cheap,,, but its almost gone, JMHO the lubricity and clean burn is very desirable in any 2smoke application,,

I'm not about to tell anybody what oil to run. But I can share my own personal results with oils that have worked for me. Ever since Stihl introduced the Ultra synthetic my OPE has been run run with a pre-mix of Ultra at the recommended ratio, with one ounce per gallon of Klotz Super Techniplate added. My top ends have stayed clean as a whistle.

That is an excellent Idea,,, and good on ya for a good post,,, somebody rep him!!! I can't :bang:

 

[mdavlee]

Yeah the good stihl shop isn't that convenient to me and the one I drive by is way high on everything. A 24" chain is $36 at it. The ultra is almost $2 a gallon to mix. I figured up the klotz is right at a $1 a gallon. I can't remember the price of motul or belray. I just want to pick up something at the bike shop since the stihl dealer is so high and I hate making a 50 mile round trip to get oil at the shop with decent prices.

 

[mowoodchopper]

There can be only one....


Super Techniplate @ 32:1


BTW, deposits are a non-issue.

Agree 100%, Thats all I have used for about 3 yrs now. Those who are worried about deposits should be running 4 strokes.

 

[komatsuvarna]

Went to 2 bike shops, yamahalube at one, hondalube at the other. Looks like I might just order some K2 and/or H1R.

 

[mdavlee]

The bike shops down here had R50, honda hp2, and maxima 927 on the shelf. The one at home has a pile of stuff just not klotz.

 

[Stumpys Customs]

Here's some prices of a few of the oils that I can git.

Ipone ATV 2000- $12.95/liter
Ipone Agricology $12.95/liter
Ipone Snow Racing $11.95/liter

Klotz snowmobile TC-W3 $12.95/qt
Klotz super tschniplate $12.95/qt

Castrol 2T Snow $5.79/liter

Maxima K2 $18.99/liter
Maxima Castor 927 $18.99/liter
Maxima Super M $14.49/liter

Bel Ray H1-R $21.30/liter

These prices are the suggested list prices right out of my catalog. Shipping is not included.
There are more products available, but these are the ones most mentioned in this thread. If anybody is interested send me a pm or email.

 

[MacLaren]

I'm gonna go with the Bel-Ray H1R.
I just ordered a liter of the Bel-Ray H1R for 21.30 just like stumpy had posted.

 

[Tzed250]

The Honda HP2 should not be dismissed. A super high quality oil with a proven record.

 

[mdavlee]

One of the guys at the bike shop here told me to use the hp2 in anything with a nikasil bore. He said he would recommend the r50 for steel cylinder saws like the poulan or macs after we got to talking.

 

[MacLaren]

One of the guys at the bike shop here told me to use the hp2 in anything with a nikasil bore. He said he would recommend the r50 for steel cylinder saws like the poulan or macs after we got to talking.

Yup, I was askin about the HP2 earlier. Are you gonna go with the Bel Ray or Honda?

 

[Stumpys Customs]

I'm gonna go with the Bel-Ray H1R.
I just ordered a liter of the Bel-Ray H1R for 21.30 just like stumpy had posted.

Guess I should lower the prices so's I can git some orders.:msp_ohmy:

 

[MacLaren]

Guess I should lower the prices so's I can git some orders.:msp_ohmy:

Well, that was with NC tax as well. Before it was 18 something. I believe it came out to 21.35. That was thru MR Motorcycle in Asheville,NC

 

[komatsuvarna]

Guess I should lower the prices so's I can git some orders.:msp_ohmy:

Ill take some when ya figure out about the piston, maybe ship it both together.

 

[mdavlee]

Stumpy why don't you deliver it to us? We'll order a gallon of it up. I can promise a pile of logs to cut on and some good food.

 

[Slamm]

Just wondering, beyond using a good synthetic, does it really make a nickels worth of difference in the overall life of a saw's PC which of these oils that you use?

I mean, it seems more time is spent "wondering" which oil is the best, when it isn't even possible that 97% of the people in these threads to even "wear out" a typical PC on most any brand of saw.

Just wondering,

Sam

 

[MacLaren]

Just wondering, beyond using a good synthetic, does it really make a nickels worth of difference in the overall life of a saw's PC which of these oils that you use?

I mean, it seems more time is spent "wondering" which oil is the best, when it isn't even possible that 97% of the people in these threads to even "wear out" a typical PC on most any brand of saw.

Just wondering,

Sam

Thats right Sam. Were not all Super Stud Logger like yourself. Sam, you are the man.

 

[mdavlee]

Sam if you spent as much time as I do in a motel room with no one else around you'd come up with threads like this too. atleast this thread has stayed civil and no one has argued a lot like in the past. I'm sure I could run itasca oil in the saws and not wear them out any faster. I actually ran itasca in the first 044 and ported 460 I had about 7 years ago.

 

[Slamm]

Thats right Sam. Were not all Super Stud Logger like yourself. Sam, you are the man.

???? Do you have an inferiority complex or something, why are you always whining about me being a logger?

It was a simple question. I've run Supertech Outboard 2 Stroke oil, which by many accounts should ruin a saw in about 5 tanks, LOL, and now I use Amsoil Saber, because I get it for cheap, when I buy synthetic for my trucks and skidders, and it has been run at 80:1 and now 50:1, yet the PC look great when inspected. So its hard for me to comprehend how reading about 27 different oils is going to make or break a PC to any measureable degree, when most saws in this forum aren't used that much to begin with and the old, conventional oils of 20 years ago, has been good enough to have saws still running on it today.

Its a free world, but I just think its silly to put all this wonderment into 2 stroke oil, beyond a reasonable quality, synthetic and what color it comes in, LOL.


Sam

 

[Slamm]

Sam if you spent as much time as I do in a motel room with no one else around you'd come up with threads like this too. atleast this thread has stayed civil and no one has argued a lot like in the past. I'm sure I could run itasca oil in the saws and not wear them out any faster. I actually ran itasca in the first 044 and ported 460 I had about 7 years ago.

LOL, thats funny.

I'm in Framingham, MA right now in a hotel room. I flew up here to help Karen finish her work and drive her back home. I'm bored out of my mind. Its raining too much to do anything at that bottom timber, and I researching getting some flotation tires when I get home early next week.

Sam

 

[MacLaren]

???? Do you have an inferiority complex or something, why are you always whining about me being a logger?

It was a simple question. I've run Supertech Outboard 2 Stroke oil, which by many accounts should ruin a saw in about 5 tanks, LOL, and now I use Amsoil Saber, because I get it for cheap, when I buy synthetic for my trucks and skidders, and it has been run at 80:1 and now 50:1, yet the PC look great when inspected. So its hard for me to comprehend how reading about 27 different oils is going to make or break a PC to any measureable degree, when most saws in this forum aren't used that much to begin with and the old, conventional oils of 20 years ago, has been good enough to have saws still running on it today.

Its a free world, but I just think its silly to put all this wonderment into 2 stroke oil, beyond a reasonable quality, synthetic and what color it comes in, LOL.


Sam

Show me 1 time I have EVER whined to you Sam. Ive NEVER even mentioned you being a logger until now......But whatever Sam, your right.