This viscosity thing causing the results with H1R is non sense... the stuff is just crap oil with a track record of causing these sorts of issues.
661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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Well, yeah it will, but it's getting to be a little more like fun now, & insults seem to have been forgotten.
Gargling with too much oil,lol...You are barking up the wrong tree with that train of thought.
We'll have no evidence of this until another oil like 800 or K2 is tested. That's why I've been pushing for that.
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In M-Tron saws that can't be tuned out like the traditional carb there isn't a difference in running 32:1 vs. 50:1? Really? Didn't we have some videos awhile back that proved there was a difference?
I had Inguinal hernia surgery two weeks ago, and wasn't in the best shape the passed few months. Trust me sitting on my ass with the nice weather is the hardest thing to deal with right now. In normal circumstances I would have already tested theses oils and documented the results.
You did and so did I 100 times.
porsche965
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OK, Red Bull has spent a lot of $ doing what everyone here seems to think is a BS test. So who is next up with their $ to test the way they think is the appropriate way to test?
Easy to sit on the sidelines. I'm ready to spend $. Anyone else?
We could raise $ from a pool of serious people that would post the closed results to only those willing to buy in and choose a testing agent and buy the saws, chains, oils, etc. Those not interested in spending $ can sit in the dark and wonder and armchair all they want. Like most of us are doing here now.
Let's start with $100 buy in. Any takers? I choose Andre' for the tester. Then when the results are posted he can feel what it is like to have his test called BS. We need one other willing to verify results. Those testing get a free pass of the buy in. Heck, let's go $200. For that we can buy some nice saws to run this test. Sell them off when finished and disperse the funds. Oils, chains, all the expenses we have enjoyed from ONE guy, Red Bull, now can be shared with everyone.
Suggestions?
Easy to sit on the sidelines. I'm ready to spend $. Anyone else?
We could raise $ from a pool of serious people that would post the closed results to only those willing to buy in and choose a testing agent and buy the saws, chains, oils, etc. Those not interested in spending $ can sit in the dark and wonder and armchair all they want. Like most of us are doing here now.
Let's start with $100 buy in. Any takers? I choose Andre' for the tester. Then when the results are posted he can feel what it is like to have his test called BS. We need one other willing to verify results. Those testing get a free pass of the buy in. Heck, let's go $200. For that we can buy some nice saws to run this test. Sell them off when finished and disperse the funds. Oils, chains, all the expenses we have enjoyed from ONE guy, Red Bull, now can be shared with everyone.
Suggestions?
I've done this 100's of times so has Brad, Randy, EC, DC, EHP the list goes on. I've out cut ported saws running 32:1 in a stock saw. Sorry the tester is not competent, the saw at the gtg was less than stellar, different fuels were used as well. Not all of the appropriate information has been presented.
These so called tests are a circle jerk.. many people have noticed the tuning issues and it's noted in the ultralight test posted in this thread many pages back. The issue is real and exists.
Only sawculls would attribute a huge decrease in power by running slightly less oil.
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If you have outcut ported saws Andre with stock saws on 32:1 please tell me the porters you have beat so I don't waste my $ 
I have nothing against Red Bull in any way, this is not personal in any way, and I don't want him to take my critique as an attack. At the same time if I see what I know as bad information, I will say so.
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i think fuel quality has a lot to do with the test also because you never know what your getting at the pump
if you buy pump gas.
if you buy pump gas.
porsche965
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So for once and for all, so those who have tested oils over 100 times, don't have to test ever again just how would a scientific test be set up?
Let's spend some money, big money and do it right.
Money talks and BS walks as they say. Let's vote on a favorite charity to give the proceeds to from the sale of the oils, chains, chainsaws, etc. I can use the tax deduction this year!
Let's spend some money, big money and do it right.
Money talks and BS walks as they say. Let's vote on a favorite charity to give the proceeds to from the sale of the oils, chains, chainsaws, etc. I can use the tax deduction this year!
If you have outcut ported saws Andre with stock saws on 32:1 please tell me the porters you have beat so I don't waste my $
It's a long list.
some even thought my saw was ported.
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Love to pay Chad and his Dyno to get in on this testing also.
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To save embarrassment send me a PM Andre' on the porters not to use. 30% as claimed from a ported saw is a lot to beat by a stock saw. They must be really bad. Thanks.
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andy must have a piltz saw???? 
Where do we get 30% 40% and so on? Who is posting these numbers? The builders that's who. Most gains come from a MM and tightening up squish, some guys really don't even grind much anymore.
