661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[porsche965]

Since OE oil is inferior and dirt bike oil is superior why don't the Dealers just stock enough OE oil for the extra warranty available and stock motorcycle 2 stroke oil instead since it is superior? And cheaper than most.

 

[porsche965]

My Dealer sells Yamaha Generators and Yamaha oils. He does not stock Yamalube 2r or whatever their two stroke is called. I'll ask him next week why.

 

[bwalker]

Since OE oil is inferior and dirt bike oil is superior why don't the Dealers just stock enough OE oil for the extra warranty available and stock motorcycle 2 stroke oil instead since it is superior? And cheaper than most.

OEM oil is a profit center. It's not poor quality stuff despite what red bulls says..

 

[bwalker]

yeah h1r ultra r50 800 true premix oils can't be used with injectors. so your 2r is multipurpose...regardless if it says it. 2-s says all purpose. so whatever.



when I get the time and the wood I'm doing the tests and I don't give a F who wins. 710, 2R, 800, H1R



If Andre and Brad want to come up with some rules or methods or the "appropriate information" they want to see...then im all ears.

Again your assuming..I absolutely could run any of the oils you listed in the right conditions. But if it got cold, they, just like 2R would not pump right..

 

[bwalker]

Again your assuming..I absolutely could run any of the oils you listed in the right conditions. But if it got cold, they, just like 2R would not pump right..

And Andre and Brad if they were smart woukd take no part in your spupidity..

 

[Andyshine77]

why am I not competent?

please describe the method that you want want done.

please describe the appropriate information that needs to be presented.

It is my understanding that there was no baseline done of the ported test saw, against a non ported saw in the same wood, same tuning and so on. this would establish the saws true nature. A little birdie also told me the fuel in the ported saw was not the same fuel used in your saw. Is this all correct?

 

[Andyshine77]

The main difference between injector oil and premix is nothing more than viscosity, especially in colder weather. Thick oil would stress the injector pump. S2 is injector oil, R2 is premix.

 

[bwalker]

The main difference between injector oil and premix is nothing more than viscosity, especially in colder weather. Thick oil would stress the injector pump. S2 is injector oil, R2 is premix.

You can run pre mix oils in injector systems as long as it stays warm.. I've done it as pre mix oil is typicaly of beter quality..

 

[Trx250r180]

Would it be smart to cut the thicker oil with gas if running in the injector ?

 

[bwalker]

Would it be smart to cut the thicker oil with gas if running in the injector ?

No, it would be smart just to convert o premix or run an injector oil. There are quit a fee good injector oils on the market now too, which wasn't the case years ago.

 

[brockhaskins]

Super m. Good oil good price.

 

[bwalker]

Ported 346 xp ran at 32:1 from day one.
That's the original plug from 04 IIRC. This saw has been had the crap ran out of it and it never missed a beat.

 

[brockhaskins]

Ported 346 xp ran at 32:1 from day one.
That's the original plug from 04 IIRC. This saw has been had the crap ran out of it and it never missed a beat.

I guess now the question is with same oil tuned correctly at 40:1 would everything look as good and if so... why burn extra oil?

 

[brockhaskins]

Ported 346 xp ran at 32:1 from day one.
That's the original plug from 04 IIRC. This saw has been had the crap ran out of it and it never missed a beat. View attachment 423472 View attachment 423479 View attachment 423472 View attachment 423480 View attachment 423479

I guess now the question is with same oil tuned correctly at 40:1 would everything look as good and if so... why burn extra oil?

 

[brockhaskins]

I'm assuming cylinder looked good too.

 

[Deleted member 83629]

Care to elaborate ?
What Zama model # ?

zama carbs starting with RB like RB-K70
the high speed jet is located under the primer bulb it has a black plastic cap over it to keep people from tuning it.
its a slotted flat head brass screw but it does control the mixture. you need a tiny screwdriver to
adjust it. follow this video if you have trouble.

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

wallywhirrled 30 weight at 16:1, use the same for the bar oil, done. Shake the mix up good.

Not that weak minded

 

[Deleted member 83629]

here is the video if you trouble with the jet

 

[Deleted member 83629]

Not that weak minded

i bet the smell fumes and smoke would be deadly

 

[Andyshine77]

explain what you mean exactly by "no baseline done of the ported test saw against a non ported saw?

Just because the saws ported, doesn't mean it's actually stronger than a stock saw.

I've been with this thread from the beginning, it's such a mess I couldn't possibly remember every detail.