661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[.404]

That makes sense, with the much higher film strength of the ester oil.

Here's a barnburner: I turn all my used oil from diesel pickups, skidsteer, skidder, excavator... etc. larger quantities of synthetic oil than you get out of a car, plus also car oil changes to a friend who runs an upholstery and hot rod fabricating business. All synthetic. He heats his shop with a waste oil burner, I believe it is a, "Reznor." Anyhow, he goes through something like 7-8 gallons a day of conventional oil from other sources in there and trust me, it is toasty.

Now you know tightwaddedness is the main gripe with guys who refuse ester oils its due. But when my shop-owner buddy uses 15w40 and 5w30 out of my barrels, he uses less than 5 gallons per day. Same cold weather same toasty shop. Which oil has more BTUs in practical terms......?

Edit: He also states no clogging problems in the nozzle from my clean syn which is a stumbling block for waste oil heaters by and large.....

 

[Trx250r180]

Here's a barnburner: I turn all my used oil from diesel pickups, skidsteer, skidder, excavator... etc. larger quantities of synthetic oil than you get out of a car, plus also car oil changes to a friend who runs an upholstery and hot rod fabricating business. All synthetic. He heats his shop with a waste oil burner, I believe it is a, "Reznor." Anyhow, he goes through something like 7-8 gallons a day of conventional oil from other sources in there and trust me, it is toasty.

Now you know tightwaddedness is the main gripe with guys who refuse ester oils its due. But when my shop-owner buddy uses 15w40 and 5w30 out of my barrels, he uses less than 5 gallons per day. Same cold weather same toasty shop. Which oil has more BTUs in practical terms......?

Edit: He also states no clogging problems in the nozzle from my clean syn which is a stumbling block for waste oil heaters by and large.....

Dump the oil in the fuel tank of your dodge and burn it again ,tail pipe has a weird odor ,but get free fuel for your truck ,guy that crushes my cars does this ,he filters it somehow and has to cut it with a little gas

 

[.404]

Dump the oil in the fuel tank of your dodge and burn it again ,tail pipe has a weird odor ,but get free fuel for your truck ,guy that crushes my cars does this ,he filters it somehow and has to cut it with a little gas

My Dad would roll in his grave.........

 

[.404]

...............But if it didn't have only 800,000 miles on it I might try.

 

[Trx250r180]

I will ask him what he does more exact what he does next time he smashes my cars . Good to learn how to make own fuel if get anything out of it .

 

[redbull660]

POST #4000 - 'HAWT' Oil for the win ?

 

[cuttinties]

Lucas 32:1 To me it didn't feel as responsive or crisp as the h1r. Kinda boggy

Lucas 36:1 more responsive can crisp than the 32:1 lucas...actually pretty nice. But not quite as nice as h1r.

To confirm the oil film - I went back to cutting. Burned up 4 tanks of 32:1 lucas. Still not as responsive or crisp as 36:1 lucas and 45:1 h1r.

Then please clarify your above statements.

 

[.404]

Now there's some good film strength........

 

[rogue661]

It's mostly still on the hush hush but 60:1 and 2nd to none as a bar oil! what is It?....We all know eco friendly recycled products are the future true?, well welcome to the future GUTTER OIL! good stuff smells like **** but haha.....

 

[cuttinties]

There is nothing to clarify. Those statements are comparisons. And they say nothing about "problems"

Bogging isn't an issue? Poor throttle response isn't an issue? I don't have any problems with your opinions on Lucas, quite frankly your opinionated testing while appreciated means nothing to me.

You're never going to get a solid understanding of what the oil is actually doing until you disassemble your saw. I don't see that you've done that yet. Some oils cling to pistons and leave little on the cylinder bore, others the opposite. Simply looking at the exhaust port and saying "well I don't like this one" or "the piston looks so good" isn't telling me anything but opinions.

You want to see what oil is doing? Look at the cylinder, take the rings off the piston, look at the crown and combustion chamber. But most importantly look at the con rod bearing and crank bearings. The easiest/cheapest oil test you can do and you haven't done is an evaporation test. See what's left after you've let it sit. Share if the oil separates or become tacky.

Do something rather provide opinion, as there's 190+ pages of that. And there's no need for you to lash at anyone who disagrees with you. By this point in this thread you should be used to people having difficulty agreeing with you.

 

[KenJax Tree]

OK... so we're on the road back over to western Iowa and I'm surfin' the web, lookin' for Celebrity Deathmatch.
I find a YouTube of Madonna vs Michael Jackson... guess I just ain't hip enough... couldn't see the comedy in it.
Now, my brother (the boss), is laughin' so hard there's tears in his eyes... so I ask him what's so funny, and it goes like this...

"Do you know who Michael Jackson was?"
-Yes
"Can you name one of his record albums?"
-No
"Can you name one of his songs?"
-No
"Did you ever watched him perform?"
-No
"Do you know who Madonna is?"
-I've heard the name
(he's laughing again) "That's why it ain't funny to ya'."

Like I said, guess I ain't hip enough... so the joke's on me this time (shrug)... I can handle it...
*

That show was on probably 20 years ago so i was about 15 at the time so i participated[emoji1]

 

[redbull660]

Bogging isn't an issue? Poor throttle response isn't an issue? I don't have any problems with your opinions on Lucas, quite frankly your opinionated testing while appreciated means nothing to me.

You're never going to get a solid understanding of what the oil is actually doing until you disassemble your saw. I don't see that you've done that yet. Some oils cling to pistons and leave little on the cylinder bore, others the opposite. Simply looking at the exhaust port and saying "well I don't like this one" or "the piston looks so good" isn't telling me anything but opinions.

You want to see what oil is doing? Look at the cylinder, take the rings off the piston, look at the crown and combustion chamber. But most importantly look at the con rod bearing and crank bearings. The easiest/cheapest oil test you can do and you haven't done is an evaporation test. See what's left after you've let it sit. Share if the oil separates or become tacky.

Do something rather provide opinion, as there's 190+ pages of that. And there's no need for you to lash at anyone who disagrees with you. By this point in this thread you should be used to people having difficulty agreeing with you.

I didn't say bogging. I said 32:1 it was kinda boggy compared to the 36:1 lucas.

I didn't say poor throttle response. I said not as responsive and not as crisp...something like that.

im not lashing out at you.

You keep saying I said this or I said that, when I didn't. ...putting words into my mouth. That's the only problem here. And therefore I'm done responding to you.

 

[Andyshine77]

That makes sense, with the much higher film strength of the ester oil.

That has nothing to do with Brad... If anyone thinks a saws going to run different on 36:1 vs 32:1 they need their head checked. RB is hung up on H1R for some reason.

 

[Andyshine77]

I believe the ester will leave a better coating, but i'm calling BS on looking like dry lube film. You're seeing what you want to see.

It took you that long to realize this. If RB wants 32:1 to be slower, it will be.

 

[Andyshine77]

I didn't say bogging. I said 32:1 it was kinda boggy compared to the 36:1 lucas.

I didn't say poor throttle response. I said not as responsive and not as crisp...something like that.

im not lashing out at you.

You keep saying I said this or I said that, when I didn't. ...putting words into my mouth. That's the only problem here. And therefore I'm done responding to you.

The difference between 32:1 and 36:1 is miniscule, there is no way you can tell the difference between the two. Sorry I know beyond any doubt, you're not the sharpest aero in the quiver.

 

[blsnelling]

That has nothing to do with Brad... If anyone thinks a saws going to run different on 36:1 vs 32:1 they need their head checked. RB is hung up on H1R for some reason.

I was only referring to the residual film of oil. I can't imagine there being any difference in how a saw runs on 32:1 vs 36:1. That's called the placebo effect.

 

[KenJax Tree]

It took you that long to realize this. If RB wants 32:1 to be slower, it will be.

No i realized it about 3999 posts ago but its getting ridiculous.

 

[Marshy]

That show was on probably 20 years ago so i was about 15 at the time so i participated[emoji1]

That show was a riot. One of the last few things MTV did right before they turned into a puss-bag show.

 

[Whitespider]

So i take it "You lost the 80's " somewhere

Naw... I didn't lose the 80s, I just refused to participate.
Disco had destroyed (popular/radio/club sound) "rock" music during the late 70s... so the 80s became my Honky-Tonk/Outlaw Country era.
You know?? Hank Williams, Faron Young, Waylon Jennings, David Allan Coe, Merle Haggard, Gary Stewart, Willie Nelson, George Jones, Billy Joe Shaver and the like.
*

 

[redbull660]

The difference between 32:1 and 36:1 is miniscule, there is no way you can tell the difference between the two. Sorry I know beyond any doubt, you're not the sharpest aero in the quiver.

12% difference is miniscule? lol