fastest stock saw?

[HiOctane]

How's the 346 compared to the old 242 (xp?) had one of those years ago at work (stolen along with ten other saws) and thought it was the fastest little saw I'd run. suppoesed to be set at 16,500 if I remember right! I was too chicken, we ran it at 15,500.

The 346 is much stronger than a 242,i try both.Better throttle response and higher rpm,better torque also.I dont think the 242 turns 15,maybe im wrong,probably more around close to 13.

 

[Al Smith]

Now don't get me wrong,those old war horse Macs I have will gnaw through a larger stem with the ease of a modern saw,no problem.They aren't nearly the speed of these smaller little hotrods on firewood sized stuff.Then again,I doubt the little saws would be much help on a 36" oak.Shows to go ya they have different purposes.The little rascals are a hoot to run.

 

[jokers]

Thats why I can't seem to sell my 066 magnum and trade it for the new 660. I have used a 660 and it is not as good as a 066. Maybe one day I will get a new one and send it somewhere to get it modifed like my 066. That saw really wakes up after some modds.

Hi Dan,

Right now I`m trying to decide whether to get a 395 or 660 to have modded for the 0-100cc class. I know that the 660 is stronger out of the box than the 395, but the 395s that Ed has been building are wicked. I`m wondering how much more anyone is getting out of the 660 with woods mods, have you got any idea? Any idea how they compare to a modded 395?

Russ

 

[jokers]

Now don't get me wrong,those old war horse Macs I have will gnaw through a larger stem with the ease of a modern saw,no problem.They aren't nearly the speed of these smaller little hotrods on firewood sized stuff.Then again,I doubt the little saws would be much help on a 36" oak.Shows to go ya they have different purposes.The little rascals are a hoot to run.

Hi Al,

If the small saws are modified properly, they have a surprising amount of torque. John Walker told me that they tested my first 346 in a big fir log using a 28" bar and I believe him after getting my hands on it. Since then, Ed has modded many 346s that eclipse that one. If we should ever cross paths I`ll show you what I mean. You might form some respect for the small saws to go along with the WOW!

Russ

 

[kf_tree]

Right now I`m trying to decide whether to get a 395 or 660 to have modded for the 0-100cc class.

Russ

russ
i think you should go with the ms660........

 

[jokers]

russ
i think you should go with the ms660........

uh huh....that`s what I thought YOU would say!

 

[rbtree]

russ
i think you should go with the ms660........

watch out Russ, that Ken's a sly devil hankering to need to build an addition on to his trophy case.....

 

[DanManofStihl]

I've never run a 395 I ran a 394 for about 15 minutes but that is about the extent of my knowledge it was a pretty good saw and also wearn out. We run just about all stihls at my work my neighbors run the variety though. They seem pretty happy with the husky products. We don't have a good enough dealer around here though stihl has sorta cornered the market on the selling and repairing them.

 

[asb151]

Has anyone run a Dolmar 9010? Just curious how it compares to the 660 or 395XP in stock form.

 

[chainsawworld]

being given no limits on the size of the saws and having timed hundreds of saws, i have to say the stihl 066. marty

 

[ehp]

the 9010 is no match for a 066, but the 9010 does make a good saw for saw milling,

If it was up to me I would want a older 066 with the dual port muffler.

 

[MOE]

If you are rating them speed per CC or Speed per pound. I would say Dolmar 7900 I've had one about a year and love it. I have a husky 246 that is a little screamer as well. Is this basicly the same as a 346?

 

[PWB]

The 346 is much stronger than a 242,i try both.Better throttle response and higher rpm,better torque also.I dont think the 242 turns 15,maybe im wrong,probably more around close to 13.

From Mike Acre's site,242xp
42cc, piston ported, 2.3kw 15,500 free rev. cuts like a banshee with a small bar/chain.

Don't know how that compares to a 346, but I liked the saw on small stuff!

 

[Stihl Crazy]

The 246 was based on the 242, but a larger open port cylinder. 242 was 3.3 hp,15,500 rpm; 246 was 3.1 hp, 15,000 rpm. I would take either saw over a stock 346. A stock 346 is a good saw but doesn't dominate the class down here. I had 3 242/246's and 5 346's.

 

[MOE]

What does the 246 have over the 346? I thought the 246 hp was 3.4 hp according to husky info,(going by memory). I love the saw. the only thing I wish it would have is a snap on air filter cover.

 

[Stihl Crazy]

The crazy air conditions here don't let the 346 show what it does in other parts of the country. I like the 246/242 because they are lighter, better handling and quicker on the throttle. The biggest part of woods work here is spent limbing, the 242/246 did a better job. I have owned most of the pro saws under 50cc and the 242/246 was the only saw that I could cut 3 cords of studwood per hour with.

 

[jokers]

I am a little Nova Scotia girly man and I cannot lift the 346 so I like the 242 better.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

The 242 that we run is a decent little saw. But no match for a 346!

 

[Al Smith]

Hi Al,

If the small saws are modified properly, they have a surprising amount of torque. John Walker told me that they tested my first 346 in a big fir log using a 28" bar and I believe him after getting my hands on it. Since then, Ed has modded many 346s that eclipse that one. If we should ever cross paths I`ll show you what I mean. You might form some respect for the small saws to go along with the WOW!

Russ

Oh don't get me wrong,I already have formed a respect for them.Mostly from my amazement.I would imagine,as I know very little about changing port timing on a piston ported engine,that one would have to lengthen the "burn" time to increase the torque,again just speculation on my part.
I can make a 10 series Mac crank on at about 14 thou but they are nearly impossble to get started with the timing advanced that far[I haven't given up yet ] Perhaps a retrofit solid state ignition,again a nostalgic old fuddy duddy typing.

 

[ehp]

Rich you have to remember that just because a saw runs in your area doesnot mean it will run in another area, Art and I have been over this already. In my area a 346 will crush a 242/246 because of the torque it will make in my air, down where Art lives it will be totally opposite because he has alot better air living near the ocean, I can set a 346 here at 14.500 send it to him and it will be turning close to 17000 rpm's . With his air being this good he can take a saw that has a higher transfer port number and it will work where here it will not and you can run a higher ext. port number down where he is.