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To a person with no mech skills that never worked on one it may seem that way to them.
Give me anything with a carb and I can have it running right in now time give something that could have problems with the electronics and it will take a little longe. Some things should be kept to the KISS principal simple is better idk how small equipment got thrown into the ring with the emissions compliance stuff I doubt running a saw has much effect but what do I know.
 
Alot of the pulp wood cutters around here used McCulloch and a bow bar.
Dad never ran a Mac, he went to the lumber camps at 13 in 1954; his last new saw was purchased in 1997. I think he finally gave in to his back injury from having a tree fall on him in 1991 in 1999 and called it quits.
The pulp mill was built in 1962 and was Swedish owned for his entire career, with their ownership came they style of forest management, cutting techniques, and eventually saws.
Dad went orange with a 444se in 1980 and never looked back. A 15" bar in .325 was standard for him. No matter which saw it was bolted to.
 
You can buy the Stihl diagnostic tool.
Saws are really simple anyways. The way some guys male it sound its like a saw with a small amount of electronics is like working on the space shuttle.
I am absolutely certain that if Stihl can charge you a premium price and sell you more stuff they'll go for it but as far as providing a free port to help you out not a chance
 
Give me anything with a carb and I can have it running right in now time give something that could have problems with the electronics and it will take a little longe. Some things should be kept to the KISS principal simple is better idk how small equipment got thrown into the ring with the emissions compliance stuff I doubt running a saw has much effect but what do I know.
Government just gave us permission to burn off 40 acres. Could see the cloud of smoke from 3 counties over, but they have cats in chainsaw mufflers. Not sure they know how to pick their battles.
 
Dad never ran a Mac, he went to the lumber camps at 13 in 1954; his last new saw was purchased in 1997. I think he finally gave in to his back injury from having a tree fall on him in 1991 in 1999 and called it quits.
The pulp mill was built in 1962 and was Swedish owned for his entire career, with their ownership came they style of forest management, cutting techniques, and eventually saws.
Dad went orange with a 444se in 1980 and never looked back. A 15" bar in .325 was standard for him. No matter which saw it was bolted to.

I think it was mostly a South Eastern thing in the US
 
As for chainsaw hours, they are very little. I have been looking for a boat on and off for years and some of the engines have almost no hours on them,,, like 10 hrs. per year. As for my Stihl 026, I bet there is not 50 hrs. on it and had it 23 yrs. I never cared much for it. it was always a dog. On the other hand , my 034 , I have had for 30 years and 3 days now. Yep, March 28, 1992. I have a lot of hours on that, likely 500. That is a lot of hours. I do have a 5 horse Merc trolling motor with 112 hours in it and it is only 2 yrs, old.
 
As I recall, this started with a reference to ODB2 ports. I've never seen an upcharge for an OBD2 port in a car, or a necessity for buying the manufacturer's diagnostic tool to make use of it.
The saw mfgs have ways to hook up a saw to diagnostic tools just like a car has a ob2 port. The only differance is there is no standardization. And just like with a vehicle you have to buy a reader. Besides the standardization there is really no difference.
 
That depends. If your buying aftermarket reader from NAPA, if your buying a reader from GM or some other OEM their probably isn't much differance.
That is irrelevant. Stihl will make damm sure you can't buy it from anyone else and they can charge you an arm and a leg for the pleasure of doing business with them,
They try to force you to only buy parts from them, require you to use their oil and then deny coverage on any warranty claim made if you can't prove you were using Stihl oil. I've seen it happen firsthand.
Husky doesn't pull any of that crap.
 
But (generally speaking) that same guy w/ no skills = same one that cud not reinstall doorknob if you locked him in a room w/a screwdriver= same one that will get hit between eyes w/ kickback or crushed/ killed while limbing a tree that was already felled and had branches in a bind? Some people need to leave the saw on the ground, or in the bigbox store?
 
That is irrelevant. Stihl will make damm sure you can't buy it from anyone else and they can charge you an arm and a leg for the pleasure of doing business with them,
They try to force you to only buy parts from them, require you to use their oil and then deny coverage on any warranty claim made if you can't prove you were using Stihl oil. I've seen it happen firsthand.
Husky doesn't pull any of that crap.
The saw market is very small compared to automotive so third parry companies won't have any motivation to make readers for Stihl saws. Stihl is no different than any other company in regards to wanting you to buy parts and accessories from them. Husky certainly does this. And a dealer can not legally deny warranty based on not using stihl oil.
If you just want to b-itch have at it, but at least have something valid to b-itch about.
 
The saw mfgs have ways to hook up a saw to diagnostic tools just like a car has a ob2 port. ... Besides the standardization there is really no difference.
Car diagnostics started _very_ proprietary too (of course), even with different connectors/protocols between different models of the same brand. Do I need to mention chargers for cell phones? Mfgs will try to screw you like that at every chance they get. And in the end it is almost always decided that it is smarter to develop standards and use these (like OBD2). Of course, next step will be that the mfg thinks of a new feature ("innovation") that "absolutely" cannot be integrated in the standard way of doing things and we start the same dance all over...
Innovation will often mean breaking with standard ways of doing things and introducing something new, but as general rule it sure looks like mfgs are resistant to learning from past "proprietary protocol" errors and will try this game again and again before deciding to work together on a standard that would also benefit themselves in terms of production cost and wider acceptance of their products.
How long have we had autotune/mtronics now?
Imho it's long overdue that the likes of Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Stiga etc. sit together and develop a standard diagnostics tool and protocol for reading and programming small engine equipment, comparable to OBD or what have you. That's not rocket science either, or at least for them it shouldn't be.
 
A Snap-On Verus Pro was $10,000 over 5 years back when it came out! This is one case where I'm thankful for chinese goods.

Automakers were forced into standardization by the government, so that said government could steal more of your money via emission testing. That it happened to make our lives easier as technicians was an accident.

IMO, electronics have ZERO place in any small engine. Anyone with proper knowledge can get an old school small engine to run as good and BETTER than anything electronically controlled. That's a fact.
 
To bad they don't make Deloreans anymore.

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In my opinion, all vehicles should be made of entirely stainless steel, or perhaps aluminum. The idea that we still have vehicles rusting when the technology exists to prevent rust entirely is crazy.
 
In my opinion, all vehicles should be made of entirely stainless steel, or perhaps aluminum. The idea that we still have vehicles rusting when the technology exists to prevent rust entirely is crazy.
You don’t want aluminum at least the way the new Ford f series is they peel open like pop cans over the slightest little bumps and the frames are like 12ga sheet metal in thickness and steel.
 
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