661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

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He still hasn't provided you a list, eh?
I most certainly do know how to interpret a VOA and I know which elements point to which additives..
Do you really think he is going to divulge confidential product ingredients to anyone outside his company? I noticed he had a email address, email him directly, tell him where he is going wrong & how on earth did he get such prestigious job at a leading company when he doesn't know what he's talking about!
 
Do you really think he is going to divulge confidential product ingredients to anyone outside his company? I noticed he had a email address, email him directly, tell him where he is going wrong & how on earth did he get such prestigious job at a leading company when he doesn't know what he's talking about!
Its not confidential at all. In industry we are always testing this stuff.
Belray isn't a leading company and I suspect he is an office person.
 
Its not confidential at all. In industry we are always testing this stuff.
Belray isn't a leading company and I suspect he is an office person.
Instead of dribbling on you could have emailed him instead of me in the time it took you to waste the time it took you to do it, he's actually a somebody, but I don't like your chances of a response after reading what he thinks of trolling nobodies, post the response if you get one, it should be interesting.
 
Instead of dribbling on you could have emailed him instead of me in the time it took you to waste the time it took you to do it, he's actually a somebody, but I don't like your chances of a response after reading what he thinks of trolling nobodies, post the response if you get one, it should be interesting.
I have no interest in emailing him as I have no interest in Belray products.
Further, for an engineer I find it pretty strange he make alot of assumptions. First I deal with VOA as part of my professional career and have for years. I have had training qualifying me to do so. Same with UOA. I also know which elements point to which additives and also which can't be picked up by VOA. Further, I have been doing this stuff since he was in highschool. It's really not all that hard..
 
Its a shame the discontinued mx2t.... but yamalube 2r is a good replacement.
I'm surprised no one seems to be aware of Lubegard's 2 cycle oil. I've used Mobil 1 Racing 2t and decided to experiment with Lubegard's product. The stuff seem like a possible replacement for it: http://www.amazon.com/Lubegard-1293...d=1442604826&sr=8-2&keywords=lubegard+premium

It is thinner than mx2t, probably SAE20 grade. It has an unusual color dye also, it's a deep yellow. I'm breaking in an old Redmax blower, HBZ2500 that was never used, and using an overkill ratio of 16:1 and it has NO smoke, not even on startup. Also what's really surprising is that even with that much oil, there is zero oil residue coming out of the muffler. It seems like that might still be too much oil though, even for break in because it *just* barely stops 4-stroking at full throttle, So I'm thinking of backing off the oil to either 18:1, or 20:1. Lubegard also doesn't produce the objectionable (to me) smell of mx2t/m1r. No idea how well it truly protects because I've never done a tear down after using it for any length of time. I still have a lot of m1 racing if anyone wants to buy any (like 8 cases).

Anyways, this is a very interesting thread. It's like arboristsite meets bobistheoilguy.com.
 
I have no interest in emailing him as I have no interest in Belray products.
Further, for an engineer I find it pretty strange he make alot of assumptions. First I deal with VOA as part of my professional career and have for years. I have had training qualifying me to do so. Same with UOA. I also know which elements point to which additives and also which can't be picked up by VOA. Further, I have been doing this stuff since he was in highschool. It's really not all that hard..
What I & anybody else reading is seeing is you're not interested in talking to anybody who actually is in the oil industry designing 2t oils, the fellow is willing & open to discuss oil related questions from individuals. What qualifications & training do you actually have? What specific oil industry experience do you have as a 2t oil designer. Your comments about belray oils are hilarious, it's a bit like saying stihl or husqvarna don't know how to make a chainsaw.
 
Have have nothing to ask.
I listed my qualifications previously on this thread. What are you qualifications?
How about re posting them for the unqualified, or putting them on your profile page, some of us are getting old & don't have much time left to waste chasing that sort of thing. We know you don't have to ask an industry oil expert because you say you know it all, but some of us aren't convinced about the depth & soundness of your knowledge.
 
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